1. I was driving at the height of morning rush hour into Chicago. WITHOUT traffic, the trip should've only been 45 minutes. Don't know how they do things in Virginia, but in Illinois we go by our counties. Cook County, the one I live in, is massive and includes Chicago, which has a few courthouses scattered within its city limits.
2. I was thinking earlier about why I hated Renee, but like Freddie Lounds, even though they're sorta similar, and I came to the conclusion that Freddie owns her awfulness and knows she's does what she does for the controversy. Renee, I think, just wanted the story and notoriety and unintentionally forgot that these are people, too.
I can't really talk because there is a sneaky reporter in The Book who creates a larger mess. It's an interesting trope to play with; I just don't like it when we're suppose to side with the shady reporter or feel sympathy for them after they mess up.
HOW did you get that accent on "blase?"
On a regular, desktop keyboard you hold down ALT and type 1-3-0 on the NUMBER PAD right of the main keyboard. (If you have a "Number Lock" option on the keyboard, it needs to be turned "ON".) The method may be a little different on a laptop. For mine, you have to press ALT and like a blue sunburst thing, and the "number pad" corresponds with the far right letters on the keyboard. (The numbers for the pad are in blue, in the right corner of the keys.) 5 years of Spanish teaches you where all the "extra" letters are on a keyboard.
3. Well, your library is a hell of a lot more organized than my mom's place of work. I did ask if they had lists of what people wanted and she said, "No." So I suggested for next year they create a master list like the one your library did.
4. Yeah, Serial gets ramble-y and the narrator focuses on a few details that seem so tedious, just to dismiss them 10 minutes later. I usually play solitaire or hearts on the computer if I'm listening, just to keep my mind active but not too active where I miss something.
Lots of people listen to Serial/podcasts on their commutes; so if you have a long one I can see that as one way to get into them. I did intend on bringing Serial to the courthouse if I had to go (which was my main reason for getting into it the first place). Don't know how well that would've gone over, though, if I had been placed on a jury for a murder trial. . . .
Okay, caught up on Gracepoint, dropping all other talking points for now. And also let's say SPOILERS!!!! because I don't feel like dealing with the effing code.
*taking three minutes to remember whether Tom is the kid or the dad*
*okay, ready*
*too many names, I swear*
How do you do that? I mean, I know you said something about the original series, but you've said you're good at figuring out twist endings, but how? What made you think so this time? I personally have been wading through this endless vat of "Everybody's nuts and hiding something, what threads should I even be following now?" pretty much from the first episode onward. I will say I'm choking a bit on the irony of what happened with Dad Miller, considering that vampire book I just put back on the shelf. SO. MUCH. NOPE. Not quite sure what else to say at this point.
1. The US creators mentioned that they changed the murderer. (Actually, they specifically said "ending", but whatever.)
2. They kept all of the character arcs the same from the UK version: Mark cheating on Beth w/ Gemma, Jack's background, Susan's story and connection to Vince, etc. Tom even smashes his computer to hide the email exchanges.
Now BROADCHURCH SPOILERS In Broadchurch, it was Joe, the dad, who killed Danny. And yes, he was still a pedophile and had a "special" relationship with Danny. The big AHA! moment for most of the Broadchurch viewers was when Ellie says to Susan "how could you not know what was going on inside your own home?" Because the US creators swore Gracepoint would have a different ending AND with the characters being set as the same from Episode 1, I knew it had to be a Miller--and the only plausible suspect was Tom, after Joe.
After they kept Ellie's line to Susan, I KNEW it was going to be Tom. It's very telling, actually, that they changed the line to include "your husband and your child".
A few other things:
--They changed the Cause of Death in Gracepoint. In Broadchurch, Danny was strangled and they specifically mentioned the killer was a male. Here, it's blunt force trauma, which doesn't require a lot of strength, normally.
--I can't remember if this happened in BC, but when Beth asked Tom for a hug I was like, "hmm, that'll suck if Tom killed Danny and now Beth is hugging her son's killer." YIKES
--Tom's "escape" or disappearance. My crack!theory was that he meant to plant Danny's crossword book in the hiker's cabin to throw the police off his dad and his trail. This came right after Carver tried to talk to Tom and delve deeper into Tom's relationship with Danny.
--Tom's overall grief read more hostile and he acted more cagey than UK!Tom. But that could just be me zeroing on Tom from the word "go".
Honesty? It helped that I'd already seen BC; otherwise I agree that there were so many threads and suspicious characters and I probably wouldn't have latched onto Tom since the first episode. Since Gracepoint kept all the same characters, I knew how Jack, Susan, and Vince's stories would end. Keeping Ellie's line to Susan cinched the whole thing. To be fair, though, I expected the death to be more malicious and not as "accidental" as it was. And I didn't connect that Joe would help Tom cover up the crime until the previous episode. I also didn't think 1. Joe would gladly take the fall and 2. Ellie would let him.
2. I was thinking earlier about why I hated Renee, but like Freddie Lounds, even though they're sorta similar, and I came to the conclusion that Freddie owns her awfulness and knows she's does what she does for the controversy. Renee, I think, just wanted the story and notoriety and unintentionally forgot that these are people, too.
I can't really talk because there is a sneaky reporter in The Book who creates a larger mess. It's an interesting trope to play with; I just don't like it when we're suppose to side with the shady reporter or feel sympathy for them after they mess up.
HOW did you get that accent on "blase?"
On a regular, desktop keyboard you hold down ALT and type 1-3-0 on the NUMBER PAD right of the main keyboard. (If you have a "Number Lock" option on the keyboard, it needs to be turned "ON".) The method may be a little different on a laptop. For mine, you have to press ALT and like a blue sunburst thing, and the "number pad" corresponds with the far right letters on the keyboard. (The numbers for the pad are in blue, in the right corner of the keys.) 5 years of Spanish teaches you where all the "extra" letters are on a keyboard.
3. Well, your library is a hell of a lot more organized than my mom's place of work. I did ask if they had lists of what people wanted and she said, "No." So I suggested for next year they create a master list like the one your library did.
4. Yeah, Serial gets ramble-y and the narrator focuses on a few details that seem so tedious, just to dismiss them 10 minutes later. I usually play solitaire or hearts on the computer if I'm listening, just to keep my mind active but not too active where I miss something.
Lots of people listen to Serial/podcasts on their commutes; so if you have a long one I can see that as one way to get into them. I did intend on bringing Serial to the courthouse if I had to go (which was my main reason for getting into it the first place). Don't know how well that would've gone over, though, if I had been placed on a jury for a murder trial. . . .
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*taking three minutes to remember whether Tom is the kid or the dad*
*okay, ready*
*too many names, I swear*
How do you do that? I mean, I know you said something about the original series, but you've said you're good at figuring out twist endings, but how? What made you think so this time? I personally have been wading through this endless vat of "Everybody's nuts and hiding something, what threads should I even be following now?" pretty much from the first episode onward. I will say I'm choking a bit on the irony of what happened with Dad Miller, considering that vampire book I just put back on the shelf. SO. MUCH. NOPE. Not quite sure what else to say at this point.
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A few things:
1. The US creators mentioned that they changed the murderer. (Actually, they specifically said "ending", but whatever.)
2. They kept all of the character arcs the same from the UK version: Mark cheating on Beth w/ Gemma, Jack's background, Susan's story and connection to Vince, etc. Tom even smashes his computer to hide the email exchanges.
Now BROADCHURCH SPOILERS In Broadchurch, it was Joe, the dad, who killed Danny. And yes, he was still a pedophile and had a "special" relationship with Danny. The big AHA! moment for most of the Broadchurch viewers was when Ellie says to Susan "how could you not know what was going on inside your own home?" Because the US creators swore Gracepoint would have a different ending AND with the characters being set as the same from Episode 1, I knew it had to be a Miller--and the only plausible suspect was Tom, after Joe.
After they kept Ellie's line to Susan, I KNEW it was going to be Tom. It's very telling, actually, that they changed the line to include "your husband and your child".
A few other things:
--They changed the Cause of Death in Gracepoint. In Broadchurch, Danny was strangled and they specifically mentioned the killer was a male. Here, it's blunt force trauma, which doesn't require a lot of strength, normally.
--I can't remember if this happened in BC, but when Beth asked Tom for a hug I was like, "hmm, that'll suck if Tom killed Danny and now Beth is hugging her son's killer." YIKES
--Tom's "escape" or disappearance. My crack!theory was that he meant to plant Danny's crossword book in the hiker's cabin to throw the police off his dad and his trail. This came right after Carver tried to talk to Tom and delve deeper into Tom's relationship with Danny.
--Tom's overall grief read more hostile and he acted more cagey than UK!Tom. But that could just be me zeroing on Tom from the word "go".
Honesty? It helped that I'd already seen BC; otherwise I agree that there were so many threads and suspicious characters and I probably wouldn't have latched onto Tom since the first episode. Since Gracepoint kept all the same characters, I knew how Jack, Susan, and Vince's stories would end. Keeping Ellie's line to Susan cinched the whole thing. To be fair, though, I expected the death to be more malicious and not as "accidental" as it was. And I didn't connect that Joe would help Tom cover up the crime until the previous episode. I also didn't think 1. Joe would gladly take the fall and 2. Ellie would let him.
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