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Apr 10, 2003 14:58

we've captured baghdad.
it's done it's all unfinished.
where is saddam? where are his 80+ henchmen?
where are the people that we're supposedly afterto me, this war is far from done ( Read more... )

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manzy219 April 10 2003, 16:33:09 UTC
i'm not surprised at all by this post. i think you have a right to be concerned with all of these things. but the anger and hostility that oozes from your words is really disconcerting to me. i just think it sucks that you cannot be somewhat happy for the Iraqi people and the hope they now have. the image of an Iraqi kissing an American soldier on the cheek is a happy image. a lot of them are seriously grateful for what we have done. and they are not brainwashed or delusional. they are genuinely happy. there is a lot of work to be done in the future, but for the moment, i don't think rejoicing is at all uncalled for. but i'm sure it can't be easy for someone who has been against this war for so long to admit that anything that comes out of it...even Iraqis dancing in the streets with elation...is a good thing. if you're against one thing, you're against all of it, and i understand that. i just wish you could recognize that some Iraqis are pretty excited right now. can you at least give them that?

p.s. i really didn't post that picture with the intention of it being defamed. we are, after all, the country that is taking down this regime so an American flag isn't altogether inappropriate. Iraqis are waving American flags all over Baghdad right now for similar reasons. i respect your opinion but it hurts my feelings a bit, and i know a few American soldiers that wouldn't be too pleased either.

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xdyskrasiax April 10 2003, 16:51:13 UTC
i'm not surprised at all by your comment, either.
it's not anger and hostility towards the iraqi people... just the ulterior motives of our government. i rejoice with and pity the iraqis right now. nothing negative is going to be typed from my hands about them, i assure you.

you know what, you're wrong in thinking that nothing good has come out of these attacks.
the iraqis will be given a little bit of happiness, sure. but nothing permanent. nothing that really means anything in the long-term prosperity of the country. we "freed" the afghans from the taliban, and i'm sure they were elated with momentary excitement, too. look at them now. we got bored. oops.

no, what is good about this war, the only thing (as far as i'm concerned) that is good about this war, is the mindset of many american teenagers being altered. the mindset that before had nothing to do with politics but now devours every piece of information it can possibly grab. therein lies my hope for the future of this country - the raising of political awareness in the youth of this nation.

i respect that "defaming" your picture insulted you, and i understand why you are upset.
therefore, i have removed it from my entry.
not only that, but i felt the need to add an "edit" section to the bottom, to clarify my feelings at the present time.

everything else i could say you to concerning this comment has been said time and time again.
you don't need to hear repeats. i hate it, and i'm sure you do too.

god bless america.
x.x.x

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Re: manzy219 April 10 2003, 17:13:15 UTC
everything you said here is very well put. my being upset with your opinions this time around had little to do with the fact that they were different from mine. i was just sad because i wish for positive thinking in almost every situation. i'm an idealist. an optimist. i wanted you to be happy. but if you don't feel it's appropriate right now, that's cool with me. you certainly have valid reasons not to be.

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Re: xdyskrasiax April 10 2003, 18:21:26 UTC
awwww, i love you! *hugs a million times*
i appreciate your optimism. and you know, contary to popular belief, i am rather optimistic in my own cynical, sarcastic, sardonic way.
it's politics that ruins that personality pattern. i have never, can never, and probably will never feel optimistic about the leaders of our nation. not the way history has dictated their actions, and not the way that they're carrying them out either. it disgusts me.
(however, i would just like to clarify that i am not an anarchist, as i believe that theory to be completely unfounded on any realistic principles.)

also, i just wanted to mention that it's not really my right for happiness. i did nothing to help the iraqis win their "freedom." i did not fight, nor am i reaping any of the face-value repercussions.
all i'm doing is sitting back and waiting for the worst. because, believe me, this is far from over. we haven't captured saddam or his henchmen. and, after spending a good two hours in borders this afternoon reading dozens of magazines, syria and iran are looking like nice places to invade next.
i wonder when it will all stop. *shakes head*
these reasons hinder my happiness. that's all.
i don't see any end to violence, and i can't stand it.
x.x.x

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