a shameful day.

Nov 03, 2004 21:56

i guess i just don't understand.

prepare for war.

for those of you who didn't vote... for those of you who can sit around and complain about the economy, or the war- don't bother to ever open your mouth again.
just... stay... quiet.

to our country: what have we done?


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vicious_koala November 5 2004, 10:37:31 UTC
us spending our money on having our toops there is hardly helping us. we need to get money in an honest fashion instead of taking it from the middle east anyway. we SHOULD cancel that stupid space program to mars and use those billions of dollars to fix our education system, since no child left behind is CRAP, and we could also use that money to get some of our jobs back from other countries. you cant say that shit isnt a problem considering my dad has lost every job he's had in the past 12 years to another country. and who is this war employing anyway? jack shit, thats who. the only people it DOES employ are naval ship builders and anyone that supplies the army with anything, which is hardly anyone. you're the first european ive met that actually approved the war in the mid east. considering my girlfriend and her entire family is english, then yes, i HAVE gotten several opinions from europeans and not just the english either. americans are fucked in the eyes of europe either way. you guys think its great for us to help out but not if we do it the way we want to. do you not even think that there are other opinions held except those held by the majority? if you think you can do a better job, then why dont you guys go over there and do something about it? you guys can get YOUR heads chopped off and let our toops come home. and since your economy is so bad, then you wont mind fucking around over there to see how much money you can get. the way to handle ANY situation is to get it over with and come home, which is exactly what we're NOT doing. who gives a fuck if kerry would have fought it harder? at least with him we would have had a chance at coming home earlier. and this is where im going to sound like the typical cocky american: our economy is good enough that we dont NEED to be over there and its hardly helping us to be there. i didnt realize that "european sophistication" meant calling americans stupid for having an opinion. if you think you guys could do a better job, then go do it.

i didnt mean to go crazy or anything on your lj mollie, but i'll hardly let anyone call you stupid.;)

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Stupid you say... rallen November 5 2004, 11:27:29 UTC
oke...
we SHOULD cancel that stupid space program to mars and use those billions of dollars to fix our education system, since no child left behind is CRAP, and we could also use that money to get some of our jobs back from other countries. you cant say that shit isnt a problem considering my dad has lost every job he's had in the past 12 years to another country. and who is this war employing anyway? jack shit, thats who. the only people it DOES employ are naval ship builders and anyone that supplies the army with anything, which is hardly anyone.

Something about this:
Maybe your dad is just a lazy dam fool i mean: lost every job he's had in the past 12 years. MY GOD GIRL 12 YEARS..... I think thats says more about your dad then it das about others...

And then this: and who is this war employing anyway.
maybe your dad should try to find a job there. They only allow Americans in there. Seen hardly any 1 works ther (according to you, wich isnt correct at all)

And then I almost laughed my ass of!
you're the first european ive met that actually approved the war in the mid east.

Well girly you seem pretty miss informed :S
you guys think its great for us to help out but not if we do it the way we want to. do you not even think that there are other opinions held except those held by the majority?

Are you dumb because just 3 lines back you said:
you're the first european ive met that actually approved the war in the mid east.

and:
if you think you can do a better job, then why dont you guys go over there and do something about it?
Whats thad all about I mean another example of you stupidity?

And:
you guys can get YOUR heads chopped off and let our toops come home. and since your economy is so bad, then you wont mind fucking around over there to see how much money you can get.
We did that you fool!

O and this is just the best:
who gives a fuck if kerry would have fought it harder? at least with him we would have had a chance at coming home earlier.
Yeah earlier and with more KIA and MIA and with soldiers on both parts hurt (a lot more)

And then this :P
our economy is good enough that we dont NEED to be over there and its hardly helping us to be there.
Yeah seen your dad has no job for over 12 years. (my god girl you are a fool)

And then the accusations...
i didnt realize that "european sophistication" meant calling americans stupid for having an opinion.
I never ever said she was stupid but I will call you a stupid little girl. Because of your many mistakes.

if you think you guys could do a better job, then go do it.
Like anybody ever said that....

but i'll hardly let anyone call you stupid
and again a accusation.

My god girl you are just the biggest loser.

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Re: Stupid you say... vicious_koala November 5 2004, 12:13:32 UTC
im a guy you fucking moron. my dad didnt lose his jobs cause he's a shit worker either, he lost them cause the companies shut down to move to other countries--meaning those jobs ARENT IN AMERICA ANYMORE. and you cant simply pack your bags and move anywhere you want when you have a family to support either, which is why we arent moving anywhere. as far as all that other shit that spewed from your fingertips: your english is so fucking choppy i can hardly understand what you were trying to say, so i wont bother to try to figure that shit out. and you did call mollie a "dumb american" as well as "badly informed". this is all im posting. i'm not gonna take up mollie's journal with either one of our shitty opinions on this subject anymore.

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You must be really dumb rallen November 5 2004, 12:31:58 UTC
im a guy you fucking moron. my dad didnt lose his jobs cause he's a shit worker either, he lost them cause the companies shut down to move to other countries--meaning those jobs ARENT IN AMERICA ANYMORE

and

our economy is good enough that we dont NEED to be over there and its hardly helping us to be there.

Your just so fucking dumb... (and that my english is bad.. well I am from the Netherlands so its acceptable but I figure your a native speaker and you just made 4 big mistakes in these 2 little texts

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Re: You must be really dumb xangelsxbleedx November 6 2004, 16:01:06 UTC
okay guys- settle down.

rallen- i really really don't appreciate being called dumb or uninformed just because you have a different opinion than mine. totally not cool. i spend a lot of my spare time reading through political books and documents- i'm involved in a lot of political activities here as well. so i do consider myself well informed. i really, honestly do.

another thing- why insult me for not having the same opinion? i mean really, are you as well informed as you are making yourself out to be? you live in the netherlands, and are NOT an american. you don't live here. you don't know what our economy is truly like. all you know is what you see from tv, radio, or internet. i would NEVER presume to know anything and everything about the Netherlands economy or war policies- because i don't live there. i don't experience it day to day. so if you were in my position, i would at least respect that you lived there and probably did have more knowledge on the subject than i could.

i'm not trying to argue with you- i'm just trying to make you see that shutting down people's opinions sucks. i didn't shut yours down- i just made an educated argument. coming on here to argue civilly is awesome- do whatever you wish with well educated arguments- but when it comes down to insulting someone's family, level of knowledge, or simply their opinion (especially when you know nothing of them) is just... not the ticket.
i think you're a cool person, and i don't think that politics should seperate people- that's what causes war in the first place. so i think this is all just forgive and forget- and let's move on. cool with you, rallen?

my dear kevin, i'm so sorry. of course i would never be mad at you for the things you've said. you were defending me, and just that in it's simplicity is a good reminder of what a good person and friend you are. :) you're my hero, as always. thank you for what you did.

<3

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Re: You must be really dumb vicious_koala November 6 2004, 20:01:01 UTC
have i mentioned that you're awesome today?

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Re: You must be really dumb euronymous November 7 2004, 20:53:54 UTC
mollie, you rock!
foreign guy, life isnt about money. WAR especially isnt about money... or should'nt be at least. the last thing i want is money thats soaked in innocent blood.

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