Evolution and genes.

Dec 28, 2004 03:34

Evolution just makes sense. I am a firm believer in evolution and will defend it to my dying day. The scientific evidence is overwhelming when it comes to evolution. How people can deny it is beyond me. Let's look at something real quick ( Read more... )

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chinaxtea December 28 2004, 20:20:21 UTC
you know it's all fine and dandy to question things, but you can't call it hypocrasy just because you don't seem to be at the point in your life in which you understand it.
there will always be a time in which every one of your beliefs is questioned. and that's a difficult time for everyone.
i believe in evolution and creation. which is strange ot say but follow me on this one.
it's says in the Bible that to God are lives are like vapor there and gone in a blink of an eye. so the world was built in seven days. and everyone just assumes that it meant earth days. well if a human life is like vapor to God it makes since that it was in God days you know? i mean to God 7 days and 700 billion years are pretty much the same thing you know? and it's impossible to say that everything was created in 7 Earth days because our days are measured by the sun, how can you measure the days before there's even a sun?
and I don't believe we've evolved from other animals, i believed as a race we've de-evolved. and i feel that the junk DNA is evidence of that. because how can we evolve to the point where we wittle our abilities down to the bare essentials? that's not evolution at all!
anyway i believe when humankind was initially created we were given all these abilities. it's said that our minds can only operate to 10 percent of it's potential capacity. and in Genesis Adam had the mental capacity to name every animal. and the animals didn't really take shape until they were named. if we were made in the image of God and He can make the universe take shape with His words than why not humans who were created to emulate Him? I believe it wasn't until we invited sin into our lives that we became limited like we are today. i have very unconventional beliefs as a Christian. and i've rambled about it enough if you really want to know some more of the details you'll have to talk to me personally.

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nuuish December 29 2004, 20:02:34 UTC
perhaps hypocrisy isn't quite the word i should have used. contradictory is better. a few examples:

compare the following:
"...thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe."
(Exodus 21:23-25)

versus

"...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

and

When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said.
(Numbers 30:2)

versus

"Again, you have heard that it was said to the people long ago, 'Do not break your oath, but keep the oaths you have made to the Lord.' But I tell you, Do not swear at all: either by heaven, for it is God's throne; or by the earth, for it is his footstool; or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the Great King. And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black. Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond this comes from the evil one."
(Matthew 5:33-37)

and the fact that incest is a sin, yet Abraham marries his father's daughter and remains God's favorite:

"And Abraham said, Because I thought, Surely the fear of God is not in this place; and they will slay me for my wife's sake. And yet indeed she is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife."
Genesis 20:11-12

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chinaxtea December 29 2004, 22:05:24 UTC
most of the verses you compared were between the old and new testaments. when Christ died alot of things in the bible changed. in the old testament God was a very different God than what He is now. because Jesus is always at the throne of God pleading our case we don't have to worry about God's wrath. when Christ was killed on the cross alot of the old religeous mumbo jumbo died too.
the verse Matthew 5:33-37 is talking about swearing on things you cannot change. like if you say "i swear to God that i'll give you the money" or something like that. it's wrong to sin on something you cannot change. if you take God or Heaven into your oath you put that on them if you break it. you know?
back then it was different, culturally speaking, regarding things like incest. and again, you're looking at the old testament and since then alot of things have changed. i take what most might consider a liberal viewpoint on the Bible. i think there are alot of things in the Bible that are presented as examples to qualify statements. i think you should also check out a concordance. and sort of study some of these verses, because it isn't until you actually take a closer look at these verses that you realize that alot of things are lost in translation.

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nuuish December 30 2004, 02:37:08 UTC
ah, i see o_o;

i can understand about the differences in translation, what with the "god created the world in 7 days" thing; many people take it literally to mean, 7 actual days when i read that i thought 7 "god" days. <.<;

i've also just realized that since the bible is written by a lot of different people, there are going to be discrepancies between a few things.

it's certainly refreshing to hear a non-bible thumping christian's thoughts :D

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chinaxtea December 30 2004, 04:01:57 UTC
well i definately believe the Bible is the truth. but i try to be open minded about things.
you should come hang out with me on New Year's i'm going to an album recording with lots of pizza and inflatable bouncy thingies.

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wtfman111 December 30 2004, 06:57:17 UTC
De-evolved? I suppose you'd be right if the neanderthals were still around, or how about Homo-erectus? According to the "de-evolved" theory that'd mean they'd be still around.

Also about the 10 percent thing. People mis-interpret that. Humans only use 10% of their brains at a single time.

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chinaxtea December 30 2004, 19:21:00 UTC
i disagree. are you in AP Bio?

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