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marefrigoris November 17 2009, 23:35:29 UTC
the chinese exchange students at my school constantly gawk at how clean the city is. And I live in Phoenix.

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owlsie November 18 2009, 05:11:59 UTC
Hooray for communism!

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owlsie November 18 2009, 06:12:29 UTC
Communist countries tend to be more polluted due to their rejection of property rights/private ownership and their over-emphasis on public ownership [which is kind of an oxymoron]. When property is not owned by somebody, nobody can be held accountable for it's care, and therefore it's much less likely to be looked after.
this is why people are happy to dump their litter in the streets [which are 'public' property] but keep their houses [their own property that they are responsible for] clean.

I don't think communal ownership of things is inherently bad, but it's over-emphasis tends to cause a lot of problems, pollution being one of the biggest.

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flewellyn November 18 2009, 07:05:46 UTC
It's nothing to do with communal vs private ownership, and entirely to do with how much the government chooses to regulate environmental pollution. In China's case, the government is not regulating.

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flewellyn November 18 2009, 08:10:44 UTC
It's one thing to have laws, and another to have them actively enforced.

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owlsie November 18 2009, 15:58:13 UTC
Exactly :)
who watches the watchers?

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owlsie November 18 2009, 07:53:48 UTC
Capitalists don't want an unregulated market. they want a market regulated by other private agencies. They consider the government to have a monopoly on regulation and therefore for it to be ineffecient at enforcing those regulations, just as macdonalds would be inefficient at feeding an entire country if they were the only food provider that existed ( ... )

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owlsie November 18 2009, 09:20:59 UTC
What people don't seem to realise that, as bad as the IR was, it was actually a monumental improvement over previous living conditions ( ... )

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flewellyn November 18 2009, 08:12:38 UTC
This is utter nonsense and you should just stop talking, as you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

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owlsie November 18 2009, 08:56:28 UTC
This isn't a very constructive argument.

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