btw (still not lucid yet this morning) your rewrites are perfect!
Even if the new writer doesn't read all your meta, at least they could be offered those to speak volumes.
I was in the middle of that discussion, as you probably already know, and I just want to defend myself that I wasn't asking we welcome MS's with open arms, I was just suggesting that there be something a little more clear as to what that comms particulars are, and that we offer some kind of learning curve for those writers.
I accept that 'everyone' knows what a MS is by the time they have been in the fandom for more than two weeks, however, I was left wondering when I'd posted the day before (with a nameless character, female, I might add) and then the next day see this broad-brush warning not to post MS. I thought I knew, after 9 months in the fandom, but suddenly I was left wondering. I'm no literary genius, so if I was left wondering, there has to be many out there wondering.
On the other hand, the arguement could be made that the ones writing MS are also the ones that aren't paying attention to any of this discussion, oblivion being their blessing and their curse.
Glad you liked the rewrites. They aren't brilliant or anything, but it was fun to try to tackle the passages.
"I was in the middle of that discussion, as you probably already know, and I just want to defend myself that I wasn't asking we welcome MS's with open arms, I was just suggesting that there be something a little more clear as to what that comms particulars are, and that we offer some kind of learning curve for those writers." ---And the thing of it is, even though most of us can identify bad writing a mile away, it's still a subjective call. I'm sure there are hordes of people that can't stand my style - and many of them have valid crticisms, I'm sure. Saying a piece of writing is so terrible that it has no place is tempting, but perhaps the question is not so much whether Sue!fic should be shunned as it is whether Sue!fic can be redeemed by applying the tools of the trade.
And I myself have wondered if my OCs were Sues from time to time. It's natural - and useful, thank God. A little bit of fear is healthy, in the end, because it means that the story/OC/style etc is being taken seriously.
It's kind of like the process I've been going through with buying a house. I'm a little bit frightened, and because of that I did tons of research, sought advice, and made it a point to educate myself as thoroughly as possible. The fear didn't stop me from buying a home. On the contrary, that modicum of trepidation prompted me to make better choices.
Saying a piece of writing is so terrible that it has no place is tempting, but perhaps the question is not so much whether Sue!fic should be shunned as it is whether Sue!fic can be redeemed by applying the tools of the trade.
----Absolutely. Wouldn't it be far more constructive (although I'm probably bordering on Pollyanna-ism right now) if there could be a way of helping the distasteful into something delightful. If they are willing, most people can learn, if given a few gentle shoves in the right direction.
Pity there isn't some way of public concrit, maybe some icon or logo that could be included in the posting, indicating the writer is most clearly open to more than the Queen Elizabeth smile and nod. Or, perhaps the comms could offer a discussion page or section (or maybe I'm just talking about a whole new comm) where open requests could be made and suggestions could be offered. Granted,there would have to be guards against a writer trying to get someone else to write for her, but I suspect there is some kind of accord that could be made.
My condolences on buying a house. It's like a water torture, one thing after another. Did it once--have no intention of ever repeating that again!
Even if the new writer doesn't read all your meta, at least they could be offered those to speak volumes.
I was in the middle of that discussion, as you probably already know, and I just want to defend myself that I wasn't asking we welcome MS's with open arms, I was just suggesting that there be something a little more clear as to what that comms particulars are, and that we offer some kind of learning curve for those writers.
I accept that 'everyone' knows what a MS is by the time they have been in the fandom for more than two weeks, however, I was left wondering when I'd posted the day before (with a nameless character, female, I might add) and then the next day see this broad-brush warning not to post MS. I thought I knew, after 9 months in the fandom, but suddenly I was left wondering. I'm no literary genius, so if I was left wondering, there has to be many out there wondering.
On the other hand, the arguement could be made that the ones writing MS are also the ones that aren't paying attention to any of this discussion, oblivion being their blessing and their curse.
Okay, coffee time!..........Kerry
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"I was in the middle of that discussion, as you probably already know, and I just want to defend myself that I wasn't asking we welcome MS's with open arms, I was just suggesting that there be something a little more clear as to what that comms particulars are, and that we offer some kind of learning curve for those writers."
---And the thing of it is, even though most of us can identify bad writing a mile away, it's still a subjective call. I'm sure there are hordes of people that can't stand my style - and many of them have valid crticisms, I'm sure. Saying a piece of writing is so terrible that it has no place is tempting, but perhaps the question is not so much whether Sue!fic should be shunned as it is whether Sue!fic can be redeemed by applying the tools of the trade.
And I myself have wondered if my OCs were Sues from time to time. It's natural - and useful, thank God. A little bit of fear is healthy, in the end, because it means that the story/OC/style etc is being taken seriously.
It's kind of like the process I've been going through with buying a house. I'm a little bit frightened, and because of that I did tons of research, sought advice, and made it a point to educate myself as thoroughly as possible. The fear didn't stop me from buying a home. On the contrary, that modicum of trepidation prompted me to make better choices.
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----Absolutely. Wouldn't it be far more constructive (although I'm probably bordering on Pollyanna-ism right now) if there could be a way of helping the distasteful into something delightful. If they are willing, most people can learn, if given a few gentle shoves in the right direction.
Pity there isn't some way of public concrit, maybe some icon or logo that could be included in the posting, indicating the writer is most clearly open to more than the Queen Elizabeth smile and nod. Or, perhaps the comms could offer a discussion page or section (or maybe I'm just talking about a whole new comm) where open requests could be made and suggestions could be offered. Granted,there would have to be guards against a writer trying to get someone else to write for her, but I suspect there is some kind of accord that could be made.
My condolences on buying a house. It's like a water torture, one thing after another. Did it once--have no intention of ever repeating that again!
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