Suicide Philosophy: part II

May 11, 2009 21:41

Caveat: I am very interested in the opinions people (including myself) hold and why. I am especially interested in testing the logic/reasoning of those opinions and seeing if they hold up. That kinda thing fascinates me. As such, if any of this comes across as especially pokey or heartless, it's not supposed to, but it is (hopefully) meant to ( Read more... )

misery loves company, rant

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Comment in 2 or 3 parts #2 blue_cat May 12 2009, 13:44:09 UTC
Suicide as compared to abortion: both are imperfect attempts to solve a problem that shouldn’t have happened in the first place OR does have a better solution but one that is unavailable / imperfect for some reason.

Guilt is a bugger. Sometimes you are guilty because the suicide WANTED you to be, because of the sort of ‘cry for help’ became ‘look at what you made me do, this is your fault’ with the suicide contemplating how bad everyone will feel afterwards (rather than their own very serious lack of future). But often it is stupid, as you say. Oddly I thought of another thing read a long time ago: a reporter finding out that the 15yo prostitutes he was interviewing were ‘good’ middle-class kids who said “Dad wouldn’t give us the pocket money we wanted, so we earn it” ~ now (assuming Dad found out) should he ‘have done more’? Maybe, maybe simply keeping an eye on them. But there comes a point where you have to accept that an individual has to make their own choices, however bad a decision you think it is. Eventually a suicide is just another adult making their own decision as to their life path.

Life is wasted on a daily basis.

Hope can be a demon, the person staying with an abusive partner out of hope is a prime example. Hope is taking a risk. You hope you will win the euromillions, never get cancer, be a perfect weight, be loved. Maybe you will, maybe you won’t. Hope = taking a chance, a risk, a throw of the dice and only the ST knows what number you need to hit.

Death the hard way? Meh. How much do you hate those you leave behind? You hear of people so wrapped in their own pain they cannot se the pain they will leave, or those who kill themselves in the tidiest possible way to avoid ‘leaving a mess to be cleaned up’.

Emotion, like relativity, is changed by being part of it.

Choice: once a failed suicide would be hung for the crime as it was still murder to take a human life, even if your own. We haven’t quite moved away from the idea that your life is not yours to dispose of as you choose unless it is in the service of something more (god, country, whatever). A newly wed couple killed themselves as they were so very happy they felt that life could only get worse, and they didn’t want to live that life.

In terms of dying, the process of dying is still very much part of living.

I would be quite interested in your abortion sub-argument.

Afterlife is not yet proved. It may happen or not, but I am absolutely certain that, should it exist, it will be as strange and incomprehensible to the mortal mind as chaos theory.

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