The State of the Union...

Jan 28, 2010 09:12

evil_spork came by after work last night and after finishing up dinner, we sat down with mjollnirr and sparkling wine to watch President Obama's State of the Union... Overall, I enjoyed the speach...  I love hearing President Obama talk...  After 8 years of listening to a frat boy rape the American language, it is reinvigorating to hear someone speak with such ( Read more... )

politics, rambling

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hunterwolf January 28 2010, 20:20:09 UTC
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Remove religion, remove politics...and you have a very clear picture of how things should be.

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woodychitwn January 28 2010, 22:16:19 UTC
Throughout my lifetime, I NEVER recited the post-communist version of the pledge of allegiance. I have ALWAYS recited it as originally intended.

"I pledge allegiance, to the Flag, of the United States of America. And to the Republic, for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."

As for the Declaration of Independence... It was accepted at the time of writing that "their Creator" was not the Christian "God". It was specifically worded that way to include all beliefs.

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hunterwolf January 28 2010, 23:37:44 UTC
The point...is equality for all...not just some...for all.

Equal rights.

Equal freedoms.

I don't give a damn post-communist or otherwise. I don't give a damn about religious or political bullshit that seeks to hide one very simple thing.

None treated better than others. None treated worse than others. All given the same rights and privileges.

You can tack on bullshit labels as much as you like...you're simply doing the same thing as every other bigoted narrowed minded ass out there...seeking to put others down, using religion and politics as weapons of oppression.

And by "You" I do not refer to you as being Woody, I refer to the word YOU as an objective encompassing anyone who would or could do something. ^.^

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hunterwolf January 28 2010, 23:47:41 UTC
...and I refuse to include every amendment or version of something just so that everyone's personal preferences are met.

In the end...it means the same thing.

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graemelion January 29 2010, 13:10:56 UTC
One small factoid here.

The original way this government was set up, people were NOT equal. Blacks were a fraction of a person. The right to vote could be limited by the state for a variety of reasons.

This government started out with a lot of bias and a lot of inequality right there in the Constitution.

BUT.. it's getting better. We gave the women the vote in 1919 , and we nearly had a woman president. We gave the blacks the vote fully in the 60s, and now we have one as president. Don't worry. It's going the right way. Kicking and screaming, but it'll get there.

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