"The Talk", I send you LOVE in fan fiction form...

Sep 19, 2005 00:57

I wrote this a while ago, but st_minority story "Tell Me You're Here" inspired me to have the courage to share it. Just an alternate universe to mix the bitter with the sweet. I love your writing, but this scene called from my soul one night. It honestly wrote itself (my hand felt possesed) and Mr. Wonka has just told me to post it RIGHT NOW! And, I think ( Read more... )

the talk, age not specified, shota, slash, chan, fan fiction, willy wonka, charlie bucket, pg

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You're just the new me! theidolhands September 19 2005, 14:58:59 UTC
I used to blather away at people and analyze their stories in a rather siimiliar way. If you haven't been reading things in this forum all along. Give yourself a treat and read from the beginning; all of the art, comments, strories, photo manipulations!! Pure love! And you will see my looong comments from before I even thought I could right anything! I love your reviews, don't stop.

Thank you for enjoying my descriptions. I know I'm very descriptive and I'm not certain if it's a downfall. Ya know what it is? By rights, I'm an artist, but I haven't been drawing anything lately. I have also confessed to sucking at being a minimalist. It's something I have to work on. I do have ONE short fic that I could try out brevity on, IF I decide to do it. Right now though, I think I'm skirting the boundry of readable detail. I'm glad you agree. (very glad! ) I'm also older than many of the folks in this community (pretty sure), so I wondered if younger people welcomed such detail. I'm guilty of only reading THE FIRST Harrry Potter book, but I wondered how descriptive that author could be.

I really, really like all the characters in the tale and wanted to put faces on them, even if only sketches. I'm very pleased that you agreed with that!

I also agree that the acceptance is the weakest part of the tale...I thought about that and it was why I hadn't posted it. To see how it might keep churning in my brain. But, Wonka (the bit of my brain that seems to have captured his character) wanted to try it out on you Oompa-loomas. I tryed very hard to convey the optimism through his mother. Ya see, the whole being of Willy Wonka is 'impossible', his creations are 'impossible', if we are willing to accept him and his universe, why not...a little more? Is there ever a universe in which Charlie and the Buckets wouldn't have to part company if a relationship were to occur. Besides, it might be just a phase. The pedophillia thing....I deliberately DIDN'T specify an age. I wanted the audience to decide. I had one in mind and then scratched it. I think it works at any age, but in OUR USUAL society, it pushes it at the child-like ages. Funny, once upon a time (especially in Europe) it wouldn't have. I gently tryed to convey something like that.

Also, Wonka might NEVER get it (you could see him waking up puzzled in bed next to a naked Charlie and STILL not knowing what is going on. *chuckles*) and Charlie might never get the courage to confess or it could very wel wear away. But, I'm with Mrs. Bucket, what DID push this unlikely duo together?

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Re: You're just the new me! tehfluffeh September 20 2005, 08:16:37 UTC
I am??! Wow. That's cool. I came across this community about a few weeks ago, and I've only been keeping up with some of the more recent stories. Methinks I really need to start going through the community archives. *Nods*

Being descriptive isn't a downfall - it really just depends on how you do it. You just gotta know which parts require the necessary elaborating, and which sections are better left short and sweet. There have been times when I find myself wishing that some authors would just take the time to add a little detail and imagery to their stories to spice them up - and there have also been times when I wished that certain writers would just cut down on all that description. So, really, it all depends. Anyhow, I (and I know plenty of HP fans are going to bash me for this) haven't read any of the Harry Potter books, so I can't say for myself how descriptive Rowling is in her writing. ;)

You are right - should a relationship ever develop between Charlie and Willy, I most definitely would not want to see a fall out between the boy and his parents just because the latter are unable to accept the fact that their son doesn't fit into their idea of a 'perfect' child. I just felt that perhaps the story would be a smidge more realistic if you could have added a touch of uncertainty on Mrs. Bucket's part. Again - the protective motherly instinct thing. :)

*Reads last paragraph and splutters water all over her keyboard* Oh, I could so see that happening! *Smirks* Knowing our dear naïve Willy, he'd probably shake Charlie awake and ask him why he went to bed without his clothes on - and isn't he feeling cold? :P

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Re: You're just the new me! theidolhands September 20 2005, 14:45:07 UTC
Yes, do read the older posts! Again thank you for taking the time to respond. If it helps you, remember that Mrs. Bucket says, "I'd be lying if I told you I hadn't considered it." at the aspect of Mr. Wonka being a sort of preditor. So, it's like she's already been where her husband's thoughts are going. Charlie seems to KNOW what his parents are discussing. I am uncertain as to the scenes that took place BEFORE the conversation with Mr. and Mrs. Bucket. SOMETHING very well could have been discussed with Charlie. Mothers are the first to know, but they are the ones that will decide when it is needed to be protective and when to back off (generally speaking). Parents can be more protective of their child of the same gender, they often feel they understand them better for that. Fathers are usually quite protective of their sons; it's like the boy represents themselves. Although I don't see Mr. Bucket as a sexist man, I felt a certain natural aspect of that part in humanity would play itself out.

The Grandparents were left out to simplify things; maybe they are alive (and off somewhere), maybe they are not. Again, it's up to the reader.

Your encouragement about knowing when to add or remove text is greatly appreciated. So, another person who hasn't read Potter. Well, the books look awfully large....*smiles*

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