♓ [Text] - SCIENCE er Magix, glub glub

Jun 04, 2011 11:51

Okay, t)(is was alw)(ales an issue wit)( some people I know so I kind of just want to ask everyone as a w)(ole ( Read more... )

not that she's good with science and tha, feferi peixes, science, glub, religion, what is this technobubble glubglub, magic

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meddlefussyfang June 5 2011, 07:19:19 UTC
Science Is The System Of Understandings And Explanations
About How The Universe Works
That We Can Quantify And Reliably Recreate

The Magic That Ive Seen
Was Based On The Powers Of Entities Outside Our Universe
So They Might Not Have Been Subject To The Same Rules And Workings
That Entities Within The Universe Are

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witch_of_life June 5 2011, 07:29:05 UTC
Kanaya )(eeeey!
)(ee)(ee.
)(mmm, so t)(ey are completely diffcurrent t)(ings t)(en?
W)(at if you can just explain one or t)(e ot)(er wit)( ..t)(e ot)(er?

I mean... okay.
So like, )(ow did t)(ings come to be?
Like, )(mmm.
We make t)(ings from ot)(er t)(ings, and create t)(ings from otter t)(ings, and t)(at can all be explained wit)( science.
But science can't explain w)(ere all t)(at stuff came from to begin wit)(!
So maybe everyt)(ing is just..magic?
38\

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3:40am Ky = Wall Of Text Philosophizing meddlefussyfang June 5 2011, 07:40:45 UTC
Hello Feferi
I Dont Know
It Might Be That At The Bottom Of It All
We Can Explain Everything In Ways That Can Be Deliberately Replicated
Making Science The Truth
Or Maybe The Underlying Nature Of Reality
Is Some Churning Morass Of Consciousness Of Entities Beyond Our Comprehension
And The Semblance Of Existence Is Merely Their Plaything
With Arbitrary Changes To Reality At Their Will
Which Would I Guess Make It Magic
Except I See A Few Posts Above Here Saying That Magic Has Rules
So The Distinction Im Making Might Not Matter

Actually Wait
I Think This Is The Way Of Putting It
I Think The Usual Question Isnt Science Or Magic
But Objective Reality And Subjective Reality
Does Reality Exist Operating By Specific Rules Regardless Of Our Existence
Or Can Will Affect Anything
To The Degree That There Are No Rules

And I Dont Know What I Believe About It
Its All A Lot To Think About

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[Text] o_o - A expression shared by both myself and Feferi right now. witch_of_life June 5 2011, 16:04:03 UTC
O)( wow!
Uuuuuuuuummmmmmm.
Okay, let me sea )(ere...

I've always felt t)(at t)(ings )(appen for a reason, so I doubt we can c)(ange -EV-ERYT)(ING wit)( out will abalone, I mean, t)(at just doesn't feel rig)(t.

Maybe t)(ere is some kind of )(ig)(er power? T)(at like...c)(ooses for us?
But if t)(ere is, )(ow does )(e or s)(e even do t)(at?

Maybe t)(ere is somet)(ing...

Somet)(ing t)(at's not magic or science?

[And after these conversations, no one sees her for days...]

[Cept Kanaya, since she lives with her. Feferi is just kind of zoning out constantly.]

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[Text] Heh, I do that all the time too; it's awful sometimes meddlefussyfang June 6 2011, 05:25:50 UTC
I Have Felt That Way Before
Its How Ive Always Felt About
Looking Into The Dream Clouds
And Skaia
An Ultimately Benevolent Force
That Ensures Things Will Be As They Must

It Seems Like
Skaia Doesnt Exist In A Lot Of Universes
But Maybe There Is Something Beyond That Particular Manifestation
That Does Look Out And Guide Everything

[Ah, does Feferi stop responding to the questions at that point?]

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[Text] witch_of_life June 6 2011, 15:06:44 UTC
[No, that'll happen when she's done talking.]

I )(ope t)(eir is somet)(ing else.
I mean, I DI---E.
Soooooo, I'd like to)(ink t)(ere's somet)(ing else waiting for me.
38(

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[Text] meddlefussyfang June 6 2011, 16:29:40 UTC
We Both Do
Within A Few Minutes Of One Another Actually
But
I Dont Know
I Hope So Too

[This has taken a turn for the depressing. If only there was someone around who knew about the dream bubbles, maybe they'd be at least a little more cheerful.]

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[Text] witch_of_life June 6 2011, 16:51:13 UTC
I know I will die.
I know t)(at I )(ave to!
I...
But I don't reelly want to die Kanaya...

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[Text] meddlefussyfang June 6 2011, 17:08:08 UTC
Feferi
...
Do You Think
We Could Talk About This In A Pile Or Something
Doing It By Text
Is
Getting To Me More Than I Like
I Feel Pretty Alone Right Now

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[Text] witch_of_life June 6 2011, 17:28:48 UTC
S)(ore.
I'll be )(ome in a little bit.
I was just wading around t)(e fountain.

[And with that, she starts back to her apartment. The plaza isn't too far from them so it doesn't take her too long to get back, plus she's kind of rushing now.]

[Feferi opens the door and looks around, setting her star fish communicator on a desk near the door.]

K...Kanaya? Are you okay? [Silly to say that, she knows she's just as agitated as Feferi herself is right now...]

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[action] meddlefussyfang June 6 2011, 20:32:57 UTC
[Kanaya's eyes have a little green on the edges, but she's otherwise composed. She's a little startled by the question.]

I'm managing. I thought you would be worse off than me.

[Kanaya shuffles a little awkwardly.]

...I just hadn't been thinking about it very much. Karkat explained the rough outline of what happened, in the Veil and here, and it's a little overwhelming when I don't have any hints from dreams to give me confidence in the future.

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witch_of_life June 6 2011, 21:17:21 UTC
[She pauses, feeling her eyes soak a little more from hearing Kanaya talk about what was happening. It...was different to hear things verbally then to think about them or read them. Feferi takes in a breath, walking over to her bed. She rips off all the blankets and her large amount of pillows she's been collecting and pushes them all into a pile, sitting on it when she finishes, her legs bending up to her chest.]

Yeah... I... I don't know I just, I mean I try not thinking about it. It's easier for everyone that way.

But... I mean, Eridan kills me.

That's just... [She digs her head into her knees.]

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bluh I like the idea of this tag but making it happen is hard. Sad tags are hard. :/ meddlefussyfang June 8 2011, 19:29:26 UTC
[Kanaya approves of having a pile to chat in, and would have assisted if Feferi hadn't built it quite so quickly. Instead she dithers for a moment, and then joins on the pile of pillows and blankets, curling and lying on her side.]

It's easier to live together without letting that be in our thoughts all the time...

[Yeah, that's why Kanaya thought that Feferi would be worse off; her ex-moirail would kill her. And it was Eridan, eternally pointing out the importance of blood and seadwellers over the others.]

"Why would he do that...?" [Kanaya asks, with a tone of echoing something she'd heard said before.]

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Nooo sad tags are the best. witch_of_life June 8 2011, 20:34:00 UTC
I don't...really know. [She pauses, laying on her side as well, facing Kanaya as she watches her own hands fiddle slightly in front of her on the pile. Was he jealous? Of Sollux? He was a purple blood, and well, they were known for outbursts, but, she had never seen him act like that before so it's just surprising to think of him doing anything like that.]

[Was he really that jealous of a person? There had to be another reason.]

Maybe it had something to do with that wand? It..changed him, perch-haps. I just... I never thought Eridan would ever do something like that. I was getting used to his and Sollux's duels, but, they never went that far so...

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They're good. They're just very difficult for me to write, for a variety of reasons. meddlefussyfang June 9 2011, 03:50:04 UTC
...The wand...?

[That is a strange and disturbing thought. Karkat confiscated the wands in Vatheon and Eridan had apparently behaved himself since, at least in comparison to murdering his friends. And Rose, who behaved increasingly oddly through her timeline, was the only other one to wield magic wands. Did that make Kanaya partly responsible?]

If it was, then it was my fault... since I made them for him, so he could pursue his little rivalry with Rose without pestering me any further, and she went strange through her timeline too... the abilities those wands provided assisted them, but using the wands may have been putting them in contact with something that influenced them...

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Just let the emoceans flooow. witch_of_life June 9 2011, 19:43:10 UTC
You codn't have known what'd he do with it, no one could've, it... threw us all out of the water Kanaya, even me... [Feferi feels her stomach lurch at the thought of it. She...was his moiral. Maybe her leaving him resulted in her death? Maybe... her dumping him and saying no to a matespritship is what caused it. He could've gotten so sad and depressed, and...Feferi was just too excited to be free to worry about how he felt.]

[She curled into herself, her eyes squinting shut as her hair started to drape over her, hiding her from view.]

[She...it...her death was probably her fault, all of it. Did she push him to do it? And right when he had the power, his rage took over and he just, snapped.]

I'm t-trying so hard Kanaya... to be happy when I talk to him, and, act like nothing happens. But it's really hard, and...I'm really scared of dying, even if I know it's inevitable, and..is supposed to happen for some porpoise...

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