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Apr 27, 2008 22:31

Thank you to everyone who participated in the Snap Cup Meme, and especially to those of you who left comments on my name! Such a lovely pick-me-up, and I tend to need those far more often than I should! I tried to leave comments for those names I recognized, and I'm so glad that more names keep being added ( Read more... )

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crossoverman April 28 2008, 02:56:57 UTC
In my own review of the episode, I came to the conclusion that a lot of this episode was about Kara even though she was only in it for five seconds. I think the philosophical/spiritual division on the Galactica will be exposed when Kara comes back to prove she knows the way to Earth; as opposed to Roslin and the Lords of Kobol worshippers who still believe in the Pythian texts.

I completely agree with your assessment of the Chief in Joe's Bar - it had nothing to do with ganging up on an unpopular character (which they took pains to make sympathetic the week before) and we all know that Jane Espenson loves the unpopular characters!

The "Adama is a Cylon" thing is a sort of out-of-date clue now. I mean it could have been foreshadowing, but now I'm so convinced the Final Cylon is Roslin that none of the Adamas make sense.

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frolicndetour April 28 2008, 03:28:57 UTC
it had nothing to do with ganging up on an unpopular character (which they took pains to make sympathetic the week before) and we all know that Jane Espenson loves the unpopular characters!

Does she? That makes me feel better. I just know she also loves Jacob, which is what raised my suspicions. ;)

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crossoverman April 28 2008, 03:39:42 UTC
Whether or not she loves Jacob, I just can't see her getting away with an anti-Cally speech just for the lulz.

And I was thinking of her writing for, uh, maybe not unpopular characters but for lesser-used characters - like Kat last season or Jonathon on "Buffy".

I actually think the speech is too extreme for a hating-on-Cally screed anyway. It's clearly about his emotional state. I mean, FFS, he says she smelled bad! That's way OTT for anyone to think either Galen or Jane were serious.

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canadiangirl_86 April 28 2008, 05:27:37 UTC
Do you know if Espenson was also responsible for the Andrew stuff in BtVS S6 and 7? Because if so, I'm not sure I can forgive her.

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crossoverman April 28 2008, 05:36:18 UTC
No, she's known as championing the Jonathon character from her early days on the show (season three) and his first big role in the episode "Earshot" - and then later the AU episode "Superstar". And a one-shot comic.

The Andrew character was likely developed by the whole staff, even though Jane wrote the episode he debuted in; given the Trio were the season six Big Bad, it's difficult to put it all on Jane.

But she certainly was known for championing the Jonathan character because of his underdog status, which Andrew never had really.

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wisteria_ April 28 2008, 07:13:33 UTC
Interesting point re: Kara. I saw your post when I did the update; I'll have to go read it tomorrow!

I'm mostly convinced about Roslin as the final Cylon, but my gut feeling is still that it's Cain, in large part because of "Razor". Either way, I'm certain it will be a female character.

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crossoverman April 28 2008, 11:07:13 UTC
Cain is my left-field choice, because it works as a dramatic moment - and it makes sense in some context. I just think the Final Cylon has to be Really Major and that's not a reference to the younger Adama ;-)

Cain doesn't upturn the universe in the same way that Roslin does.

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