But my favorite thing is her atypical and non-cliché characterization of Jin. This is a Jin I rarely see, and I find it very refreshing.
I think one of my biggest pet peeves is when people write Jin as this dumb, stupid character. I think perhaps it might have been ok to write him that way, say, two years ago but he's matured and he's grown so much in the last few years. In fact I'd say he's more complex than Kame is-in a way they've swapped places.
Oh man I love meta discussions. I wish there were more of them.
I think one of my biggest pet peeves is when people write Jin as this dumb, stupid character.
Of course I agree with this, but to expand on it, I'm not a fan of any character being written as a collection of fannish clichés. Personally, if I can't write beyond the clichés, then there is no point for me to write that character at all.
However, this is my own personal taste. People write (and read) fanfic for lots of reasons, and some people enjoy certain clichés in their fanfic - and that's fine. It's just not my preference, so when I see how acchikocchi chooses to show us an often-heavily-stereotyped character like Jin in a completely different light, it makes my day. :)
In fact I'd say he's more complex than Kame is
Hmmm, I'm not sure I 100% agree, but I definitely think that Jin is a very complex character (far more complex than fandom often seems to indicate!), and so is Kame, and so is Yamapi, Takki, etc. To me, they all are - it really comes down to how much we know about them, and how much (and what) we are permitted to know. The more
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I'm not either and I think that's why I'm so wary about most Akame fics-too many people write them as stereotypes. I definitely agree with you.
Hmm I think on the one hand Kame will always be complex because he has so many layers and different personna's, but on the one hand Jin is incredibly private and I think whilst he's more open about how he feels and his opinions, there's a lot more going on with him than we realise. But as you say, we can only read and see so much!
And there actually is a wealth of info floating around (even in translation) - but it takes time and effort to track it all down, absorb it, and then find ways to incorporate it into fic so that it becomes part of the accepted canon.
There really is. It's just a shame that there isn't a post available or time to put it all together!
It's just a shame that there isn't a post available or time to put it all together!
Well, hang on to all your links when you find them (to translations, etc.), because someday there will be, and those links will come in very handy - there's no way that one person could do it all on their own, so it will almost definitely have to be a group effort of some kind. :)
And going back to Jin, I actually am so much more fond of him after his hiatus - it gave him a depth and complexity that I'd only had hints of before, and while his absence really hurt KAT-TUN, still, I feel like it allowed all of them to grow and develop in ways they probably wouldn't have if he'd never left.
Oh I definitely will! I'd love to help out if someone did decide to create one, because it would be such a wonderful experience.
Oh, me too! I love KAT-TUN more as a whole since Jin's return. They've really grown up and become friends with each other and I really love the way Jin has obviously taken his experience in LA and made good use of it-that small passage he wrote in English for a magazine (not sure if it was Wink Up or Potatoe) recently made me so proud!
d I really love the way Jin has obviously taken his experience in LA and made good use of it-that small passage he wrote in English for a magazine (not sure if it was Wink Up or Potatoe) recently made me so proud!
I agree, definitely. :) (we're just a happy circle of agreement today!)
You've already been helping. XD That timeline project I am working on for the coldwar fic is hopefully going to be this sort of resource when I am done with it. I really need people to pass me any links and things they have as they find them. I want to make a complete history of Akame in the process. VERY complete. Basically I am trying to collect every bit of canon we've ever had and make them coherent. And then post it, of course. ;) Anything anybody can throw my way would be appreciated.
Btw, winterspel, no rush still, but just checking to make sure you didn't forget about my email. :D
But my favorite thing is her atypical and non-cliché characterization of Jin. This is a Jin I rarely see, and I find it very refreshing.
I think one of my biggest pet peeves is when people write Jin as this dumb, stupid character. I think perhaps it might have been ok to write him that way, say, two years ago but he's matured and he's grown so much in the last few years. In fact I'd say he's more complex than Kame is-in a way they've swapped places.
Oh man I love meta discussions. I wish there were more of them.
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Of course I agree with this, but to expand on it, I'm not a fan of any character being written as a collection of fannish clichés. Personally, if I can't write beyond the clichés, then there is no point for me to write that character at all.
However, this is my own personal taste. People write (and read) fanfic for lots of reasons, and some people enjoy certain clichés in their fanfic - and that's fine. It's just not my preference, so when I see how acchikocchi chooses to show us an often-heavily-stereotyped character like Jin in a completely different light, it makes my day. :)
In fact I'd say he's more complex than Kame is
Hmmm, I'm not sure I 100% agree, but I definitely think that Jin is a very complex character (far more complex than fandom often seems to indicate!), and so is Kame, and so is Yamapi, Takki, etc. To me, they all are - it really comes down to how much we know about them, and how much (and what) we are permitted to know. The more ( ... )
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Hmm I think on the one hand Kame will always be complex because he has so many layers and different personna's, but on the one hand Jin is incredibly private and I think whilst he's more open about how he feels and his opinions, there's a lot more going on with him than we realise. But as you say, we can only read and see so much!
And there actually is a wealth of info floating around (even in translation) - but it takes time and effort to track it all down, absorb it, and then find ways to incorporate it into fic so that it becomes part of the accepted canon.
There really is. It's just a shame that there isn't a post available or time to put it all together!
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Well, hang on to all your links when you find them (to translations, etc.), because someday there will be, and those links will come in very handy - there's no way that one person could do it all on their own, so it will almost definitely have to be a group effort of some kind. :)
And going back to Jin, I actually am so much more fond of him after his hiatus - it gave him a depth and complexity that I'd only had hints of before, and while his absence really hurt KAT-TUN, still, I feel like it allowed all of them to grow and develop in ways they probably wouldn't have if he'd never left.
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Oh, me too! I love KAT-TUN more as a whole since Jin's return. They've really grown up and become friends with each other and I really love the way Jin has obviously taken his experience in LA and made good use of it-that small passage he wrote in English for a magazine (not sure if it was Wink Up or Potatoe) recently made me so proud!
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I agree, definitely. :) (we're just a happy circle of agreement today!)
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Btw, winterspel, no rush still, but just checking to make sure you didn't forget about my email. :D
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