oh my god, first off, what - you are incredibly good to me, algj;ldf. ♥ and, please, you have the talent to write something a hundred times better, truer, more deeply felt and eloquently stated than this. don't cheat yourself. :-*
(it´s funny, everytime i think about your writing, remembering, "no, it can´t be that good as i remember, there has to be a catch" and then you write things like this and i go "wait, it´s always better than i think". it´s like a movie you love but are afraid to watch again because it can´t possibly be as good as you remember but when you watch it again, it´s different, more amazing and impossible to pin down) okay, that's it. this is the best feedback i will probably ever get from anyone. I LOVE YOU. AND DON'T DESERVE YOUR COMPLIMENTS OKAY. ♥ ♥ ♥ gosh. let me just tell you that the sentiment is entirely reciprocated.
because, see, i always picture joaquin as the one with the upper hand, the advantage - or at least, that's what he usually has, that's what he thinks. but cesc, cesc is different, cesc forces him to reevaluate himself, his words, his behavior just by being, well, cesc. because joaquin has human weaknesses after all. :x
and, man, thank you for that - honestly, i just wikipedia-d him v. quickly, and i understood that he was pretty legendary, but i didn't know how much? the woes of being culturally ignorant. :( i'll change it asap! and, no, pls never stop talking (er, typing?), ilu.
no, no, if you only knew how happy your writing makes me. (oh, if you only knew, how i think, "if this were a printed book i would pay fortunes to read it").
I LOVE YOU, TOO, AND YES, YOU DO DESERVE IT -DON´T YOU KNOW YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE INDIE MOVIE? XD
i think Cesc, by being Cesc, unsettles Joaquin -and Joaquin is the kind of boy who tries to seduce what makes him nervous, what he doesn´t understand, like saying "ha ha, i get you down, too", so it can be harmless. and Cesc involuntary makes everyone around him begin to question things, and that doesn´t go well with Joaquin, he loves to keep things simple.
Joaquin, on the other hand, is like an ancient statue to Cesc; rationally he thinks, "it´s just a statue, it can do nothing for me, it can do nothing to me, but oh look, it´s so beautiful and the sun falls on its shoulder blade in such an angle that..." it´s quite mysterious, to him, too.
no prob. i thought you´d appreciate the insight. it´s one of those things that it´s not a matter of being culturally ignorant (which you´re totally not and i refuse to hear you say that), but you have to be here to understand -that´s why it amuses me so much when you guys write about spanish players, because i get to read a rare, outsider´s perspective.
someday we need to write a story together. &hearts
also, oh my god, yes a thousand times to joaquin seducing what makes him nervous, what's incomprehensible to him - that's perfect. and the cesc part too; i love imagining cesc as a nineteen year old who is, for his age, incredibly talented and mature - but at the same time, not entirely nice or rational. he still has fits of temper, vindictive moods, petulance. (and this is where their two personalities collide - joaquin is interested/annoyed by cesc because they are so different, but also because they do share that mean, stubborn streak, only cesc hides it better.) if cesc were just this really lovely, ridiculously kind young man, i don't think cesc/joaquin would work at all. and cesc doesn't want to accept that he shares anything with joaquin, really, but he has to come to terms with it - and i tried to show that with cesc coming to terms with spain, with flamenco, with realizing that those ships are antiquated and out of date, but still there, still so strong.
uhhhhh, SRY FOR THE BABBLE.
i love how obsessed i/we am/are with spanish players. and how much i romanticize the country and culture, which, while beautiful, has its own massive shortcomings and problems, just like any country. still, though, it's nice to play around with a foreign society and glorify it.
we should all put together a book about gay footballers, for real.
oh, yes, yes, you put it perfectly -and Cesc, he is at war with himself, because he really is nineteen and though he understands the mechanisms of it all, can´t stop himself from living it. this is the only time in his life that he will be this bright, this selfish, this golden and that´s what makes him equal to Joaquin, who is in a permanent state of teenage invulnerability, no matter how old he is, he still capture that light -and Cesc thinks "I will grow out this" but for now he is fascinated. it´s complicated, being a nineteen year old genius, full of talent and burning hormones. i don´t think the pairing could work if he was thirty. (i believe Cesc will grow to become some sort of Xabi in the future)
why do we overanalyse players so much? arg.
spanish players are a good thing to be obssessed about -it´s not cause it´s my country but i do find them irresistible, too.
i'm sure it would be an attractive publishing proposition - never underestimate the power of slashers. :x
oh, yes. and how torn he is between england and spain, signing that contract with the arse but still having season tickets at barca, probably still secretly hoping. so joaquin is spain, is this thing he is so fundamentally drawn to, and this thing he doesn't necessarily want to be drawn to, doesn't want to admit it at least. and ditto x a thousand on the age thing, he's mature enough to be a challenge, but young enough to let himself take foolish risks, to have everyone love him and not know. i can picture cesc as a xabi-type when older. just a bit more flash, you know. maybe his taste in clothes will improve with time too.
because it's so easy? i really wonder sometimes, how odd it must be to be a footballer, because being completely engrossed in a game is also a form of vulnerability, and it's amazing how much we (and general football fans/pundits) in general can read and extrapolate from that, how we attach grand emotions and concepts to such small actions, such small words.
joaquin is spain like cesc has never known -catalonia is so different and joaquin is kind of a symbol for that part of the spanish heritage catalans always refuse to take on; the hot blood, the empty landscapes, the olives, the sunlight, the lack of sofistication; joaquin is "the other" spain to cesc, the one he has never really known but now somehow attracts him in its foreigness. cesc is torn between what he has learned all his life, "that catalonia is not spain", and a kind of homesickness that involves it all. speaking english at the club, catalan with family and friends, and spanish with the national team. oh, he still hopes, dreams of a future in red and blue, but when he plays for his country, it´s red and gold he wears.
haha, thanks. i could go on and on about cesc for hours, it´s pathetic. it´s like a second xabi to me and that´s why people should write me xabi/cesc, or at least xabi-cesc
and that´s why people should write me xabi/cesc, or at least xabi-cesc no arguments from me, i have been totally trying to encourage this for a while. to very little avail, damn you internets.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT. ahhhh, i always feel like we should consult z first, we write spanish footballers so much yet know next to nothing about the country -- well, next to nothing compared to someone who actually lives there, you know? this entire comment thread is wonderful-- god, i can't believe cesc/joaquin has come this far, existing as remotely from reality as pluto exists from the solar system from which it's been excommunicated -- but. LAKSJLAKJ this relationship, so many tiers, so many intricate questions about country and age and the convoluted conflict of approximating something that isn't quite love.
speaking of which, i love you guys. this fandom=best evr.
YES. i feel kind of sketchy, writing about spanish footballers because i'm all, you know, delicious food! beautiful buildings! YYY completely ignoring reality in the process, you know.
existing as remotely from reality as pluto exists from the solar system from which it's been excommunicated oh danica. ♥
also, because of this comment thread, i can practically feel my fascination with the pairing mulitplying exponential. damn it, just when i thought i was beginning to escape its clutches --
GOD, I KNOW RIGHT? FOR THE LONGEST TIME I HAVE BEEN STARING BEADILY AT SUSAN, WONDERING, why is she not shipping this. why is she not shipping this. what do i have to do to make her ship this.
and then ss happened (not to mention this comment thread >:D) and now! now my work is all done for me! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA er.
(it´s funny, everytime i think about your writing, remembering, "no, it can´t be that good as i remember, there has to be a catch" and then you write things like this and i go "wait, it´s always better than i think". it´s like a movie you love but are afraid to watch again because it can´t possibly be as good as you remember but when you watch it again, it´s different, more amazing and impossible to pin down)
okay, that's it. this is the best feedback i will probably ever get from anyone. I LOVE YOU. AND DON'T DESERVE YOUR COMPLIMENTS OKAY. ♥ ♥ ♥ gosh. let me just tell you that the sentiment is entirely reciprocated.
because, see, i always picture joaquin as the one with the upper hand, the advantage - or at least, that's what he usually has, that's what he thinks. but cesc, cesc is different, cesc forces him to reevaluate himself, his words, his behavior just by being, well, cesc. because joaquin has human weaknesses after all. :x
and, man, thank you for that - honestly, i just wikipedia-d him v. quickly, and i understood that he was pretty legendary, but i didn't know how much? the woes of being culturally ignorant. :( i'll change it asap! and, no, pls never stop talking (er, typing?), ilu.
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I LOVE YOU, TOO, AND YES, YOU DO DESERVE IT -DON´T YOU KNOW YOU ARE MY FAVOURITE INDIE MOVIE? XD
i think Cesc, by being Cesc, unsettles Joaquin -and Joaquin is the kind of boy who tries to seduce what makes him nervous, what he doesn´t understand, like saying "ha ha, i get you down, too", so it can be harmless. and Cesc involuntary makes everyone around him begin to question things, and that doesn´t go well with Joaquin, he loves to keep things simple.
Joaquin, on the other hand, is like an ancient statue to Cesc; rationally he thinks, "it´s just a statue, it can do nothing for me, it can do nothing to me, but oh look, it´s so beautiful and the sun falls on its shoulder blade in such an angle that..." it´s quite mysterious, to him, too.
no prob. i thought you´d appreciate the insight. it´s one of those things that it´s not a matter of being culturally ignorant (which you´re totally not and i refuse to hear you say that), but you have to be here to understand -that´s why it amuses me so much when you guys write about spanish players, because i get to read a rare, outsider´s perspective.
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also, oh my god, yes a thousand times to joaquin seducing what makes him nervous, what's incomprehensible to him - that's perfect. and the cesc part too; i love imagining cesc as a nineteen year old who is, for his age, incredibly talented and mature - but at the same time, not entirely nice or rational. he still has fits of temper, vindictive moods, petulance. (and this is where their two personalities collide - joaquin is interested/annoyed by cesc because they are so different, but also because they do share that mean, stubborn streak, only cesc hides it better.) if cesc were just this really lovely, ridiculously kind young man, i don't think cesc/joaquin would work at all. and cesc doesn't want to accept that he shares anything with joaquin, really, but he has to come to terms with it - and i tried to show that with cesc coming to terms with spain, with flamenco, with realizing that those ships are antiquated and out of date, but still there, still so strong.
uhhhhh, SRY FOR THE BABBLE.
i love how obsessed i/we am/are with spanish players. and how much i romanticize the country and culture, which, while beautiful, has its own massive shortcomings and problems, just like any country. still, though, it's nice to play around with a foreign society and glorify it.
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oh, yes, yes, you put it perfectly -and Cesc, he is at war with himself, because he really is nineteen and though he understands the mechanisms of it all, can´t stop himself from living it. this is the only time in his life that he will be this bright, this selfish, this golden and that´s what makes him equal to Joaquin, who is in a permanent state of teenage invulnerability, no matter how old he is, he still capture that light -and Cesc thinks "I will grow out this" but for now he is fascinated. it´s complicated, being a nineteen year old genius, full of talent and burning hormones. i don´t think the pairing could work if he was thirty. (i believe Cesc will grow to become some sort of Xabi in the future)
why do we overanalyse players so much? arg.
spanish players are a good thing to be obssessed about -it´s not cause it´s my country but i do find them irresistible, too.
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oh, yes. and how torn he is between england and spain, signing that contract with the arse but still having season tickets at barca, probably still secretly hoping. so joaquin is spain, is this thing he is so fundamentally drawn to, and this thing he doesn't necessarily want to be drawn to, doesn't want to admit it at least. and ditto x a thousand on the age thing, he's mature enough to be a challenge, but young enough to let himself take foolish risks, to have everyone love him and not know. i can picture cesc as a xabi-type when older. just a bit more flash, you know. maybe his taste in clothes will improve with time too.
because it's so easy? i really wonder sometimes, how odd it must be to be a footballer, because being completely engrossed in a game is also a form of vulnerability, and it's amazing how much we (and general football fans/pundits) in general can read and extrapolate from that, how we attach grand emotions and concepts to such small actions, such small words.
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no arguments from me, i have been totally trying to encourage this for a while. to very little avail, damn you internets.
i guess we will have to write it ourselves. :(
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is it a deal/challenge/proposition? cause if it is, HELL YES!
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speaking of which, i love you guys. this fandom=best evr.
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existing as remotely from reality as pluto exists from the solar system from which it's been excommunicated
oh danica. ♥
also, because of this comment thread, i can practically feel my fascination with the pairing mulitplying exponential. damn it, just when i thought i was beginning to escape its clutches --
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NO ONE ESCAPES THE CLUTCHES OF JOAQUIN/CESC! RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!
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and then ss happened (not to mention this comment thread >:D) and now! now my work is all done for me! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA er.
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love, hugs, and gay crack all around! ♥
also, lajsgld;skg ss, seriously. after that and this, i am Doomed.
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