[ callisto, callisti ]

Feb 22, 2006 13:46

i had a dream the night of july 27th 2004. this is that dream. this is why i am a posthumanist.

"i dreampt a dream last night that seemed to last for years. it was of posthumans and androids living far beyond our time here on earth after nature repaired itself. it was beautiful. i saw forty or fifty droids climbing the mounds that were once ( Read more... )

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styossarian February 22 2006, 12:06:04 UTC
ah, high school. First real exposure to what computers could do. Also the first time I had read Kurzweil...coincidentally, when I started reading Hofstadter and Douglas Adams as well. "Radically expanding my conceptions of the term 'possible'" is an understatement.

That was also the year (your pardon, I was a bit of a bible banger in my youth) when I had the first, last and only *ahem* non-deliberate mystical experience of my life so far.
Essentially a voice (not like my usual internal narration, and not some weirdo behind me) telling me (while I was seated in church, no less, "I Am what You will become".
Now that was provocative. Went through lots of models on that one. Contact with God? Future (immortal...or pretty damn near) me, sending back self-fulfilling prophecy? A bit too much cayenne on the chicken for dinner last night?

College was reading as much futurist/immortalist/extropian/transhuman material as I could get my hands on...which, to my shame, I still need to pick up Drexler's Engines of Creation...

I dig your vision. just metal though? why not stalk through the pyramids in a body of diamond? or as sentient vegetation? or as some species that hasn't even been designed yet...live as a moon for a while. Or as a planet - nurturing the next generation of life.

Einstein reportedly spent a lot of time as a child imagining what life would be like as a proton.

No limits. If we can conceive of it, we can bring it to frutition. I can't imagine what consciousness, freed from a mortal body, would do with eternity.

I think I have some interesting ideas for the first thousand years or so, though.

...Pleasure to make your acquaintance, btw. ;)

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carpe_jugulum February 22 2006, 12:49:37 UTC
You need to do proofs on my kitchen table again.

We can be > your mom.

Keep talking, boys, Libby's interested.

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whiteplastik February 22 2006, 13:40:59 UTC
human wonder. i believe it is the driving force behind the idea of posthumanism and or making human work. wonder is fed by perception and it begets creativity.

these are the only traits i truthfully respect about the human image. i want to carry human wonder into forever. it stems from my interest in one textbook...


by harold hatt
and everything philip k. dick ever wrote. at the core of his stories has always been the idea of perception and memory. cybernetics have been an interest of mine since i was very young. also my dream of spreading my conciousness over a swarm of androids.

i dont have star trek to blame for that but i do blame star trek for my interest in social economies.

i want to go on forever. i want to carry the memory of humanity into eternity. i want to explore how man dies.

forget this lj stuff. email me or something.

why then hell was i not allowed to meet you when you were here?

do you read cory doctrows fiction?

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styossarian February 22 2006, 14:05:24 UTC
no, but I should. I'm addicted to Boing Boing...

Doctorow. Hatt. Stuff I've heard of...seems I have radar for it. Which has made my life a series of "why haven't I gotten around to reading that yet?"s.
Always pleasantness in store when one of those shows up.
PKD is fantastic - was it you or someone else I was mentioning Valis and Ubik to....ah, someone else. Indy's own Mr. Silent, believe it or not. HUGE Philip K. Dick fan.

Interesting idea about the swarm of androids. Experience collection. Millions of "you"s, living in the universe. Draw them all back every hundred years or so, let them, for lack of a better term, "coallate" experience. Then send them out again. You could be older than the universe at some point...

Need it be Androids? Cyborgs. Posthumans, nano-augmented. Foglets. Whatever comes ten million generations after dolphin. Life, genetically created (by us? strong AI? both working in tandem?) that can live in the vacuum of space.

Who's to say it's not already at that point, in some corner of the universe somewhere? Are they watching us? If they're even 1000 years more advanced...how would we know? Prime directive and all...what's the "grownup" point? Nanofactories? Strong AI? Immortality?

[At this point, it bears noting that I get somewhat ephemeral with expressing ideas when I get on a good tangent...]

Or, there's the other alternative. We're the first. Seems ludicrous in the face of a universe as huge as ours...but hell, that's an exciting possibility, if a little species-egotist. Maybe there's others, but they're still single cells. Or paleolithic.

...yeah,I'm on a gooood tangent here. I dunno why we didn't meet up at some point sometime. I'll be out again, for sure. You guys make some damn fine coffee.
But yes, email-y goodness. [clicky]
done and done.

And OMG, who broke Picard. (I've seen that before - I love that the crew had a sense of humor to do that though)

...massive attack and amethystium. That's all I really have for now. The former's good all the time, as you may well know. The latter's...a little obscure, and good for late summer nights sitting outside and wondering
- what it'd look like from the other side.

Obscure. Ever hear/listen to a band called Celldweller? Not exactly my cuppa, but Stars of Orion is a nice track, now that I think of it.

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styossarian February 22 2006, 14:08:20 UTC
collate. I can't spell.

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willowperson February 23 2006, 23:05:02 UTC
I less than three you guys soooo much.

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whiteplastik February 24 2006, 09:55:01 UTC
because matt misspelled something?

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