So, what I'm getting out of this is... you should live in a bubble, protect yourself from everything 'unhealthy' in the environment, and mental conditions and issues have absolutely no existence without a trigger. Totally untrue. That may be enough for you, it may even work for you. It's also a different siutation, and I'm sure quite convenient for you to believe that you didn't hurt him -- just serves as another reinforcement for you to believe you're right on this. Not everyone can live the way you want them to, or live up to the restrictions you're willing to place upon yourself. You think I haven't told him he's stronger than he gives himself credit for? You think I don't have faith in him? You don't see the shit that happens, with absolutely no consistent factors linking up. You don't watch him get upset and miserable without a single thing changing in his enivronment. You might not believe in any of the psychological facts behind it, but again I'm telling you, you don't have to. Just keep your emotional outbursts out of it. You've said your fucking piece, you don't agree, big deal. Just don't get on your high horse and discredit science simply because you feel like being superior and highly educated about something. Point blank - you argue with him... when you've barely been around for months -- it hurt him. Hun, I'm trying not to take low blows... just realize you haven't been the perfect friend, and that maybe there are explanations in the world other than your own.
What does anything I've said have to do with my working in a pharmacy? Other than the fact that I've read the literature, understand what has been proven in laboratory studies and what hasn't, and am actually educated about the choice he's made for himself. I'm not seeing anything that you can find 'rich'.
As for my language, stop being a hypocrite. You've been known to use rough language yourself when you're angry. Oh wait, yes, I'm upset that you're acting the way you are --- thus.... harsh words. Go figure. I never claimed to be less than a bitch.
"Just realise he's being a pretty shitty friend himself" --- How? He confided in you, you didn't agree, he got hurt because you went off on him. You've broken numerous sets of plans with him over the past months, he's tried to stay in contact and be a good friend to you. What here makes him such a shitty friend? The fact that he's not taking your advice immediately and bowing down to your infinite wisdom? Spare me.
I'm more than willing to take whatever insults you can throw at me... I have the backbone to deal with it. Frankly, I'm doing nothing more than a friend SHOULD do -- watching another's back when they're feeling too down and hurt to defend themselves. I'm not going to take any of it personally, I'm hoping you'll do the same. I originally said I didn't want to fight, and you're turning this into a battle of wits and words - I'm just beyond shocked that you're still preaching and pitching a fit because I dare stand up for him. Apparently I had a different impression of you. Maybe you had a different one of me. I'm not going anywhere, and just bear in mind that if the situations were reversed - I'd have defended you as well. Unfortunately, it's what I'm willing to do for a friend. Maybe you'll still consider me one after this, maybe you'll decide that you hate me and I'm a horrible person. I still don't feel like I've done something criminal by standing by him.
I read English well enough to realize you're being entirely self-righteous and unwilling to recognize any viewpoint other than your own as being even potentially correct. I'm sure you've dealt with everything in your life just perfectly, never done a thing that someone's disagreed with. I would have never expected this from you... and frankly, I'm relatively disgusted that you'd do this to a so-called friend. You don't even recognize when you hurt someone, you just choose to go on rambling about them using it as an excuse and so forth. Obviously someone so perfect as you could never have caused another person, a supposed friend, emotional pain.
And for that matter, where is it your place to make judgments as to what he's done to deal with his problems?
Just because doctors write prescriptions and I fill them doesn't mean I agree with all of them. Or that I'd take them myself, with or against medical advice. The first person who'd ever tell me to put my child on A.D.D. medication would be speaking their last conscious words.
Every situation is different. And again, I'm aware of the science behind it, I've studied anatomy and psychology long enough to have a significant base of knowledge on the subject of depression. Yes, I deal with my own depressive bouts without medication. That doesn't mean it's not right for someone else.
For what it's worth... I did look at the website. It's very holistic and whatnot... I'm just a little less than impressed by the validity of the sources. If it was all taken from medical journals (not New Scientist, quitpaxil.org, things of this nature)... I'd be more convinced. I'm not saying it can't work for some people - I'm just not convinced of it as a solid, researched scientific tool.
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As for my language, stop being a hypocrite. You've been known to use rough language yourself when you're angry. Oh wait, yes, I'm upset that you're acting the way you are --- thus.... harsh words. Go figure. I never claimed to be less than a bitch.
"Just realise he's being a pretty shitty friend himself" --- How? He confided in you, you didn't agree, he got hurt because you went off on him. You've broken numerous sets of plans with him over the past months, he's tried to stay in contact and be a good friend to you. What here makes him such a shitty friend? The fact that he's not taking your advice immediately and bowing down to your infinite wisdom? Spare me.
I'm more than willing to take whatever insults you can throw at me... I have the backbone to deal with it. Frankly, I'm doing nothing more than a friend SHOULD do -- watching another's back when they're feeling too down and hurt to defend themselves. I'm not going to take any of it personally, I'm hoping you'll do the same. I originally said I didn't want to fight, and you're turning this into a battle of wits and words - I'm just beyond shocked that you're still preaching and pitching a fit because I dare stand up for him. Apparently I had a different impression of you. Maybe you had a different one of me. I'm not going anywhere, and just bear in mind that if the situations were reversed - I'd have defended you as well. Unfortunately, it's what I'm willing to do for a friend. Maybe you'll still consider me one after this, maybe you'll decide that you hate me and I'm a horrible person. I still don't feel like I've done something criminal by standing by him.
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And for that matter, where is it your place to make judgments as to what he's done to deal with his problems?
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But you verbally assaulting me over my job, and it's relevance or lack thereof to this argument was a low blow too.
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Just because doctors write prescriptions and I fill them doesn't mean I agree with all of them. Or that I'd take them myself, with or against medical advice. The first person who'd ever tell me to put my child on A.D.D. medication would be speaking their last conscious words.
Every situation is different. And again, I'm aware of the science behind it, I've studied anatomy and psychology long enough to have a significant base of knowledge on the subject of depression. Yes, I deal with my own depressive bouts without medication. That doesn't mean it's not right for someone else.
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