Notes about LOST (6.15) - "Across the Sea"

May 12, 2010 09:19

Good morning folks! In my opinion, an awesome episode last night. I heard some folks complaining that it was uneventful, but to me, it wasn't meant to be "eventful" as it was mostly an origins story, nothing more. We found out more about the island while still keeping secrets about it from us and the relationship between Jacob and Esau was definitely cleared up quite a bit. We have a lot to talk about, so let's get started. And many thanks to getlostpodcastmedia for their awesome caps!!

THINGS I NOTICED ABOUT LOST:

- Episode Title- The title of this ep is "Across the Sea." To me, this is could be a reference to the famous Bobby Darin song, "Beyond the Sea." We've heard/seen this in the show as Shannon told Sayid in season 1 that she used to babysit some kids in France who watched "Finding Nemo" all the time. At the end of the film, there is a version of "Beyond the Sea" and Shannon noticed that the french lyrics to the song were written on Rousseau's map. Also, the plot of "Finding Nemo" is about a father and son who are trying to find each other and a boy who is just trying to get home. This could tie in with LOST as this episode dealt with parental issues and Esau, a son, trying to find his way home from the island.

- Mother- we met Jacob and Esau's mother, Claudia. I did a quick wiki search and the name Claudia has several hits. The first one I noticed was Claudia, a Vestal Virgin. In Roman mythos, Vesta "pertains to a Roman goddess, The Sacred fire of Vesta and the Temple of Vesta." Well, what is Vesta and all this stuff? It turns out, that the Sacred Fire of Vesta was a holy fire that burned in Ancient Rome. The Vestal Virgins were selected by lot (also known as Cleromancy, get to that in a second) and served for 30 years, tending the fire and whatnot (they started in pairs of two, then groups of four, then six). This sacred fire burned in a circular temple (maybe a nod to the temple in the early part of the season?). Now, Vesta was/is the virgin goddess of the hearth, family, and home in Roman religion. Going back to selection by lot, this is also referred to as Cleromancy, which is a way of finding an outcome that is determined by a means that would be considered random (dice, etc), but was believed to be the act of the Gods or a supernatural force.

How does this tie into LOST? I'm not sure, but the guarding of a sacred fire, outside/God-like forces, and selection in a larger group sure sounds like the LOSTies. Other Claudia hits gives us the wife of Pontius Pilate, the wife of Nero, and so forth. But the one I mention above is easily my favorite.

- "By Accident"- I found it interesting that Fake Mother (we never learned her name) told Claudia that she arrived on the island "by accident." This makes me think of the 815 crash, Desmond's boat, etc, and how none of this is actually by accident. It is actually something that is totally intentional and is meant to be. Or as Fake mother and Locke have put it, "for a reason."

- Babies- we saw the birth of Jacob and Esau in this episode. Jacob was born first, with Esau coming in second and without warning as it looked like Claudia had no idea she was having twins. In looking at the Bible, Jacob came out second and Esau was first, which is something I mentioned a while back with Esau not getting the blessing from his father that he was entitled to later on life. But both stories show a reversal as Jacob the younger gets the blessing that was meant for Esau the older and in LOST, Esau was hoped to be guarding the island by his mom, but Jacob takes over.

And how about the fact we never got Esau's name in the show?!??!?! Until we get it, I'm sticking with Esau, dammit!

- Fake Mother?- Alright, so this woman delivers Claudia's babies, wraps them up, and then kills her?!!?!? My question: who is this woman?!??! Where does this come from?!?!?! Is she one of the Vesta Virgins from above? Is she a deity/Goddess??? I'm not sure, but she did say that she set things up so they could never hurt each other or ever worry about death (at least from each other as Jacob did, ya know, die). how did she do this?

- "it's black, it's white!"- LOTS of obvious black and white imagery in this episode. The blankets Jacob and Esau were wrapped in were white for Jacob, black for Esau. The game pieces were black and white, their clothing was black and white, etc.



We've seen this imagery many, many times, and this goes back to Locke's speech in season 1 about two sides, good, and evil.

and speaking of Locke and games...

- Backgammon?- alright, newsflash: I don't play backgammon so I know nothing of the game, BUT, I do know it involves dice and game pieces which are black and white, So, that game that Esau and Jacob were playing, looked to be a very, very, early version of backgammon. After all, Locke did say in season 1 that backgammon boards were found dating back 5,000 years. I did some searching and it looks like Locke might have been referring to something called the Royal Game of Ur, which was/is played in Iraq, BUT, this relates to the egyptian game of Senet. Look at a pic of senet right here.



Looks nearly identical to the game that Esau and Jacob were playing, which can be seen here.



Also, here is something I found, " Because of the element of luck in the game and the Egyptian belief in determinism, it was believed that a successful player was under the protection of the major gods of the national pantheon: Ra, Thoth, and sometimes Osiris. Consequently, Senet boards were often placed in the grave alongside other useful objects for the dangerous journey through the afterlife and the game is referred to in Chapter XVII of the Book of the Dead." I mentioned something much like this a long time ago in the blog for "Dead is Dead" in season 5 when Ben is judged, tying egypitan lore into the LOST; judgment and the weighing of the scales (we've seen those before), Ammut tying in with smokey as he was the one who devoured the evil folks, and so forth. Also, in terms of Osiris, he was the god of the afterlife, or underworld. He is thought to have a son, Horus, which could tie into Horace Goodspeed of the Dharma group. I'm wondering maybe if Claudia was egyptian or somehow Fake Mother has egyptian ties as we have seen so many cases of Egyptian mythology and symbols on the island.

- Jacob and Esau's personalities- I found it interesting that Jacob and Esau both had their own personalities, but both conflict with what they want to do. Jacob has no desire to watch over the island while Esau is the one that their fake mom wants to watch it, but he has no desire to. Also, Esau's personality and interests don't work for the island. Jacob is a man of the island, living off the island in terms of shelter and so forth. Esau is a man of production, industry, living in huts/homes and using metal objects. I remember in season 3 when Ben said that Jacob was old fashioned, and didn't like lights, etc. Of course, he was living in a hut and that was probably Smokey, but still, he doesn't like technology.

This also goes back to the struggle between Jack and Locke was one was the man of science (jack), and one was the man of faith (locke). This dynamic has of course changed, especially with Jack, but there's no denying that these are all related.

Also, Jacob is shown to be honest, unable to lie to this mother while Esau has no problem trying to keep things from people. I also thought back to Esaulocke's speech to Kate earlier in the season when he told Kate that he had a very sick mother, and he blamed her for this game. This was shown to be pretty accurate as he just wants to leave, but due to her actions, she can't and she also killed their real mother. Also, Fake mom refers to Esau as special, hinting at the idea that he will take over the island. I thought back to Locke being told he was special in the first season. And wouldn't you know it: Locke and Esau were damn near fated to connect as both had mom issues and were told they were special only to have things go totally wrong for each of them.

What really struck me in this episode was Jacob's temper; he had the tendency to act without thinking and be quick to anger, which definitely isn't the way to go. But it's interesting to see how he is later on the series when he fully understands his role and how he was starting off, which also relates to Jack's character.

Lastly, I noticed that when Jacob went to see Esau as adults, Esau said that Jacob was "looking down" at them, perhaps hinting at God(s)?

- island Guard- This leads me to the idea that Jack will be taking over for Jacob. And while this was hinted at by Sayid, I'm pretty much thinking it'll happen. Jack has become a man of faith and he is a very, very, relunctant leader. Jacob was the exact same way, very relunctant to watch the island too. Who would be the next Man in Black though? It concerns me that Hurley and Esau can both see dead people, I'll say that, but I don't believe Hurley will be the next MiB as that doesn't fit his personality. We shall see though.

- The Others- We caught a brief glimpse of the other people on the island, presumably the rest of Claudia's people from her boat.I'm not really sure what to make of them as their attire isn't something I recognize.



Any help on these folks would be good!

- Esau's speech- Think back to Esau's speech to Jacob in the season 5 finale; he talks about mankind/people and says something about how humans fight, destroy, corrupt, and so forth. Well, we heard their Fake Mother give the two of them the exact same speech in this episode when talking about mankind. Esau would later tell Jacob that she was right that people do destroy, corrupt, and so forth.

- Tapestries- We saw Fake Mother creating tapestries in this episode, which is something we also saw Jacob doing in the season 5 finale and in this episode.



and



In that episode, Jacob's tapestry shows a large illustration of the Eye of Horus; I couldn't see any designs in the mothers tapestry though.



- MiB ghostly visions- Confirmed tonight that Esaulocke is definitely seeing the ghost of a Young jacob in previous episodes. The young boys look identical (and I think they're played by the same young actor too). I'm sure this ghost is just taunting him or trying to make him feel guilty.

- Esau's dagger- we saw that Esau carried with him his trusty dagger in the episode.



This appeared to be the same dagger that was used to kill Jacob and the dagger that Dogen gave Sayid to kill Esaulocke with. That or maybe Esau just made a bunch of similar daggers!

- Those caves look very, very familar!- Turns out Jacob and his mother stayed in the same caves that the 815 folks stayed in for a while. And the huge nugget of info tonight was that....

- Adam and Eve- We FINALLY have our answer to who these two were: Esau and the fake mother!!!



FINALLY, that answers that question. When I think about Adam and Eve, I think about their sin, fall from grace, and banishment from paradise. But that doesn't tie in too well here as fake mother and Esau don't fit with this idea. Fake Mother is seemingly godly somehow by granting her sons eternal life and she wasn't banished from paradise, she's protecting it maybe. But Esau is more tragic, just wanting to go home, and ending up being a murderer.

- Donkey Wheel!- WE found out in this episode that it was Esau and his people that were trying to build the donkey wheel which Ben and Locke would later use to move the island and leave it.



He told Jacob about the different magnetic spots around the island and how they had found another way into the light of the island. Esau and the other group of people were planning on using the energy from the light and water and find a way off the island. I'm just curious how these folks know about the possibility of getting off via the wheel/energy. Maybe somebody time traveled from the future back that time to get them going on this? I'm not sure, but I'm also wondering who else completed the wheel after Fake Mother filed the well in with dirt.



I'm guessing Esau manipulated somebody to do it for him perhaps? Or maybe he did it himself? But i'm guessing he had help of some sort during the many years he has been on the island. Which leads me to...

- Construction on the island- who built the Taweret statue and the temple?!?!?! I'm guessing these might be...you know, I don't know. I'm hoping we get more info on the original group of "Others" who were brought to the island to protect it so we can finally figure out what's going on with them.

- Wine bottle cameo- the wine bottle from several episodes ago made an appearance tonight. Jacob's fake mom shared some of it with him after what (I think) was a blessing of it. I couldn't hear what she said, but she ended with "you and I are the same." Perhaps same in that they are both now guarding the island's power? I tried to find a similar quote, maybe Biblical to tie into it, but came up empty.

- Deja vu!- I have to admit when Esau saw the smoke pillar in the distance I instantly thought about season 1 when the Others set off the smoke to signal they were coming.



I wonder if this pillar of smoke maybe found its way into the traditions of the Others and this is how they use it. Or they use it as it resembles the smoke monster? Either way, it strikes fear into those who see it, even for Esau. But what I'm wondering: how does one single woman kill an entire crew of people and then destroy the well? What powers does this woman have? Is she a form of smoke herself? Maybe a white smoke to counter the black smoke?

- "I looked into the eye of this island...."- And what Locke saw was beautiful! In this episode we saw that Fake Mother was guarding a hole with a large, glowing light coming out of it. She describes the hole, saying, "light, warmest brightest light.....and we must mke sure no one ever finds it...."



she says that the light is inside every man, but they always want more. They can't take it, but they put it out and if it goes out there, it goes out everywhere. The boys add that the light is "beautiful."

Alright, so WHAT IS THE LIGHT?!?! Goodness?!? Love?!!?!? Power??? Hope?!? Life?!?!? Godliness? Heaven? Hell?!?!Marsellus Wallace's soul??! I don't know, but think waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back to season 1. Locke is talking about when the smoke monster encountered him in the jungle and he said, "I looked into the eye of this island, and what I saw...was beautiful." Is this the eye he was referring to? Going off of that, I mentioned earlier that Jacob's tapestry depicted the Eye of Horus. The eye of Horus was a symbol of protection and Power! So, maybe this ties into the light of the island as all people have power in them, but they always want more. It was later said that the hole was life, death, rebirth, etc. But it was also the heart of the island and that if you went into the hole, you would suffer a fate worse than death.

and it's funny she should mention that as....

- Smokey is born- We saw how the smoke monster came to be in this episode as Jacob, in a fit of anger, knocks out his brother who glides into the hole of light and ends up turning into the smoke monster.



This is hard to explain as we don't know the origins of the light/hole and we don't know how they all tie into each other. Regardless, I thought this scene was pretty awesome.



If you watch the scene where Esau glides into the hole you'll notice that he definitely slides into an actual hole, leading him underwater, etc.



I also have to add that I think we've seen the hole/light before. Think back to season 4 when Ben summons the smoke monster; he escapes into a hidden chamber adorned with hieroglyphics and talks into a giant wet hole. Moments later, the smoke monster shows up and begins kicking the crap out of Keamy's crew. We saw the actual hole in season 5 when Ben summoned smokey to be judged.



So, maybe this is the same spot? Or perhaps this ties in with the temple and the springs that were used in the temple and would later bring Sayid back to life.

Also, with Esau's body being back in the cave, it looks as though his body is no longer with him. This would explain why when he is shot or stabbed it doesn't phase him as he has no body that can be injured. I read a great idea that the light was guarding the smoke monster and since a body was dropped down there, the smoke was unleashed using Esau as his vessel. So, technically, it could be that Esau himself isn't evil, but rather what has taken his body, much like how the smoke has taken the form of Locke now.

THE NUMBERS (4 8 15 16 23 42)

- Jacob and Esau were 13 for part of the episode; 1+3=4.

- Later on, we jumped ahead 30 years and Jacob and Esau were 43, but I got nothing from that.

And that's I have folks!!! As always, feel free to leave your comments/theories/feedback and
on a side note, I have a correction for last week: I said that Widmore told James that he had a list of four names, but I misheard him. He said, "I have a list of names: Ford, you're on it, as are Reyes, etc. etc." So, my fault on that one! So, this could mean that Jack's name is on the list too?!?!

On a personal side note, I am getting married this weekend and the fiance and I will be spending our honeymoon out in Las Vegas. We are both huge LOST nerds and we made sure we got a room with a 42'' plasma HD TV. hehhehe We will be out WEst for the rest of the series, but that won't be a problem in getting the blog out. In fact, we booked an extra day just so we could watch the finale with some friends and I could get the blog out before we started heading back to Toledo.

I'm off to work! Soooo glad I managed to get this up before work too! yay!

'till next time true believers.
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