Episode 7.21 reaction post - Would you like to start?
- Oh, mes enfants. Making country-wide storms is not the best way to keep up that whole natural order thing. But that's alright, because Dean brings the Dick jokes back, which clearly is the natural order of everything.
- ... as is, apparently, tender quasi-romantic music when they enter Cas' room. I wonder if Misha had a word to the post-production team?
- Is it just me or does Sam calling Cas 'Castiel' feel oddly significant? Like forgiveness, and starting again with a clean slate? Especially when he's looking all soft and glowy at him.
- New best line: "I heard a ping that pierced me."
- ... except Cas keeps getting new best lines all through the episode.
- Cas has found wonder, and acquired hugs. It's about time. Dean, he is happy. Back off.
- Yes, Dean, BACK OFF with all that testosterone you are throwing in such a manly way at Meg.
- Hm. The Metatron (and therefore presumably the other angels) predate creation, because they were there to hear the world created. I'm sure Bonaventura and Aquinas would be pleased to have that solved. (No, seriously - you wouldn't believe how much mediaeval ink was spilled over whether angels were created with 'fiat lux' or 'creavit coelum et terram', and how many implications followed on from that.)
- Poor Sam. He is always left to pick up the pieces (of the word of God).
- ... Dean. Of course cas doesn't like conflict. He's had too much.
- I find it unreasonably hilarious how good random teenager is at dodging Sam.
- Oh, Cas, sweetie. Dean doesn't want 'different answers'. He wants you to be a weapon again. YOU want answers, YOU want to talk. You have absorbed the whole mental asylum atmosphere, and you want to talk things out and use the techniques you've learned there - laughter? hugs? games? forgiving? give them simple answers and apologise without making them work for it? make people happy and the problems will go away? You want to solve things and have hugs. Dean wants to avoid all that and go straight to the fixing, and he can't understand a simple apology. I'm sorry. I will write you fic with hugs in it, if you like?
- Am I the only one who thought that Dean never actually got the point of 'Sorry' being a reciprocal game, and of Cas asking him to go first? Nor (to leap forward half an hour) did either he or Sam seem to understand the irony under Cas' smile when he said he's always happy to bleed for the Winchesters.
- Yes, random teenager. Yell at them a lot. They need that sometimes.
- Oh look, Dean is bringing out the junkless joke again. He must be really uncomfortable. He only throws sexual references at Cas when he's really off balance - when he's just annoyed he infantalises him. Cf. 'Not for nothing, Cas, but the last time someone looked at me like that I got laid' at the same time as he's using the most brutal possible techniques to shove Sam and Bobby away, and so on, with the 'baby in a trenchcoat' etc references throughout season 6.
- So, which archangel gets to look after the prophet now? Do a few garrison angels get to substitute in the event of all archangels being either dead or locked in a cage? Would they even have protocol for that? Although, random teenager whose name I've forgotten is probably lucky. Can you imagine him having to deal with Raphael? And you just know Gabriel would hang around and bug him loudly on a daily basis, and leave candy wrappers all over his couch.
- So, backstory. Castiel's garrison was the one assigned to watch the Earth. And he, as the leader of it, was the one to pull Dean out - that makes sense. (Incidentally, why do we have so many stories where Cas is some angelic underdog, the littlest angel int he garrison etc, when we know he was actually reasonably highly placed within his own garrison from season 4?) Presumably that places Anna higher up the chain. Cas has to have been commanding the garrison before Anna fell, because Anna has only been gone a few years and these angels seem to be talking about a longer timespan of Castiel in command. So, that makes either Anna the intermediary between the garrison (several garrisons, presumably) and Zachariah, or means that Zachariah has, in her absence, been promoted to her place. If Zachariah is a recent up-and-comer (by angelic standards) this explains his officiousness and his eagerness to prove himself.
- Pacifist Cas. That makes absolute sense. He's seen too much and just wants it to stop, refuses to take any further responsibility for choosing who should live and who should die. Dean, if you try to take that away from him I will Frown at you. There is a very good reason my Gabriel went pacifist at the end of In His Image.
- "You seem troubled. Of course, that's a primary aspect of your personality, so I sometimes ignore it." I love Cas without his brain-mouth filter. It shows you so much more of the way his mind works. And then, and then - oh, Sam. He had to blurt that out, didn't he. It had been weighing on him for so long, the way it just fell out. I think I have to watch that scene a few more times. It feels like both of them had been waiting for it so long. ALL THE FEELS.
- Oh dear, more angelic family issues. I am so glad to see those again - I haven't cared about the Leviathans yet, so that is so refreshing. And I am delighted to see it's not just the obvious DAMMIT YOU KILLED THEM ALL (although that could work too). It's interesting: the first and most painful thing Castiel's sister hurls at him is not you killed angels, not you set yourself up as God when it was not your position, but you left. You took away our only hope for a leader, you abandoned us, you bastard. Oh, angels and your abandonment issues, angels and your burning hopeless need to be told what to do.
- And in light of that, I adore Dean's little comment that angels aren't equipped to care, that if they try, they break. That, and the glimpses we had of angels here? Beautifully understated comment both on backstory and race of a set of characters that have been largely neglected this season.
- Meg. Cas genuinely seems attached. More surprisingly, she genuinely seems attached. I thought Ruby's feelings for Sam (yes, I'm pretty sure she had them, warped as we find them) couldn't have been a fluke!
- I would just like to squee: CAS GOT TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION WITH A BROTHER. YAY! (DID THEY HUG?)
- And for the record, I would like to mention that as soon as the camera moved to Random Teenager's mother talking to the FBI officer, I said out loud, MRS TRAN STEP AWAY FROM THE LEVIATHAN.
- Then, a minute later: Argh. three more angels down.
... I really hope angels can reproduce sexually. Because, if not, they're getting pretty finite.
- ... as is, apparently, tender quasi-romantic music when they enter Cas' room. I wonder if Misha had a word to the post-production team?
- Is it just me or does Sam calling Cas 'Castiel' feel oddly significant? Like forgiveness, and starting again with a clean slate? Especially when he's looking all soft and glowy at him.
- New best line: "I heard a ping that pierced me."
- ... except Cas keeps getting new best lines all through the episode.
- Cas has found wonder, and acquired hugs. It's about time. Dean, he is happy. Back off.
- Yes, Dean, BACK OFF with all that testosterone you are throwing in such a manly way at Meg.
- Hm. The Metatron (and therefore presumably the other angels) predate creation, because they were there to hear the world created. I'm sure Bonaventura and Aquinas would be pleased to have that solved. (No, seriously - you wouldn't believe how much mediaeval ink was spilled over whether angels were created with 'fiat lux' or 'creavit coelum et terram', and how many implications followed on from that.)
- Poor Sam. He is always left to pick up the pieces (of the word of God).
- ... Dean. Of course cas doesn't like conflict. He's had too much.
- I find it unreasonably hilarious how good random teenager is at dodging Sam.
- Oh, Cas, sweetie. Dean doesn't want 'different answers'. He wants you to be a weapon again. YOU want answers, YOU want to talk. You have absorbed the whole mental asylum atmosphere, and you want to talk things out and use the techniques you've learned there - laughter? hugs? games? forgiving? give them simple answers and apologise without making them work for it? make people happy and the problems will go away? You want to solve things and have hugs. Dean wants to avoid all that and go straight to the fixing, and he can't understand a simple apology. I'm sorry. I will write you fic with hugs in it, if you like?
- Am I the only one who thought that Dean never actually got the point of 'Sorry' being a reciprocal game, and of Cas asking him to go first? Nor (to leap forward half an hour) did either he or Sam seem to understand the irony under Cas' smile when he said he's always happy to bleed for the Winchesters.
- Yes, random teenager. Yell at them a lot. They need that sometimes.
- Oh look, Dean is bringing out the junkless joke again. He must be really uncomfortable. He only throws sexual references at Cas when he's really off balance - when he's just annoyed he infantalises him. Cf. 'Not for nothing, Cas, but the last time someone looked at me like that I got laid' at the same time as he's using the most brutal possible techniques to shove Sam and Bobby away, and so on, with the 'baby in a trenchcoat' etc references throughout season 6.
- So, which archangel gets to look after the prophet now? Do a few garrison angels get to substitute in the event of all archangels being either dead or locked in a cage? Would they even have protocol for that? Although, random teenager whose name I've forgotten is probably lucky. Can you imagine him having to deal with Raphael? And you just know Gabriel would hang around and bug him loudly on a daily basis, and leave candy wrappers all over his couch.
- So, backstory. Castiel's garrison was the one assigned to watch the Earth. And he, as the leader of it, was the one to pull Dean out - that makes sense. (Incidentally, why do we have so many stories where Cas is some angelic underdog, the littlest angel int he garrison etc, when we know he was actually reasonably highly placed within his own garrison from season 4?) Presumably that places Anna higher up the chain. Cas has to have been commanding the garrison before Anna fell, because Anna has only been gone a few years and these angels seem to be talking about a longer timespan of Castiel in command. So, that makes either Anna the intermediary between the garrison (several garrisons, presumably) and Zachariah, or means that Zachariah has, in her absence, been promoted to her place. If Zachariah is a recent up-and-comer (by angelic standards) this explains his officiousness and his eagerness to prove himself.
- Pacifist Cas. That makes absolute sense. He's seen too much and just wants it to stop, refuses to take any further responsibility for choosing who should live and who should die. Dean, if you try to take that away from him I will Frown at you. There is a very good reason my Gabriel went pacifist at the end of In His Image.
- "You seem troubled. Of course, that's a primary aspect of your personality, so I sometimes ignore it." I love Cas without his brain-mouth filter. It shows you so much more of the way his mind works. And then, and then - oh, Sam. He had to blurt that out, didn't he. It had been weighing on him for so long, the way it just fell out. I think I have to watch that scene a few more times. It feels like both of them had been waiting for it so long. ALL THE FEELS.
- Oh dear, more angelic family issues. I am so glad to see those again - I haven't cared about the Leviathans yet, so that is so refreshing. And I am delighted to see it's not just the obvious DAMMIT YOU KILLED THEM ALL (although that could work too). It's interesting: the first and most painful thing Castiel's sister hurls at him is not you killed angels, not you set yourself up as God when it was not your position, but you left. You took away our only hope for a leader, you abandoned us, you bastard. Oh, angels and your abandonment issues, angels and your burning hopeless need to be told what to do.
- And in light of that, I adore Dean's little comment that angels aren't equipped to care, that if they try, they break. That, and the glimpses we had of angels here? Beautifully understated comment both on backstory and race of a set of characters that have been largely neglected this season.
- Meg. Cas genuinely seems attached. More surprisingly, she genuinely seems attached. I thought Ruby's feelings for Sam (yes, I'm pretty sure she had them, warped as we find them) couldn't have been a fluke!
- I would just like to squee: CAS GOT TO HAVE A CIVIL CONVERSATION WITH A BROTHER. YAY! (DID THEY HUG?)
- And for the record, I would like to mention that as soon as the camera moved to Random Teenager's mother talking to the FBI officer, I said out loud, MRS TRAN STEP AWAY FROM THE LEVIATHAN.
- Then, a minute later: Argh. three more angels down.
... I really hope angels can reproduce sexually. Because, if not, they're getting pretty finite.