“We don’t hurt children, Dean,” Ellen said, firm and far too steady, and her eyes flicked down for a moment to that notebook again, with something like regret. “But children grow up.”
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Well, since we don't specifically come back to that question at any point...
From her point of view, most of the conversation was about testing Dean. How will he react if I mention this, will he get angry or sly in ways that don't feel like real!Dean if he's challenged, has he considered this.
The white sand specifically is a just-in-case, and a warning. Just-in-case, because their understanding of the supernatural world around them is far from complete, just bits and pieces and theories here and there. If Dean is under some kind of sexual influence, it may be that there's an incubus somewhere coming to him looking like Cas / using some old influence left by Cas; or it may be that angels are in fact more like incubi than had been previously thought. Basically, we know white sand works against something else that behaves similarly, so use that in case that is what's going on here. And as a warning? Well, saying USE WHITE SAND DEAN == "have you considered that something might be manipulating you into behaving in unnatural ways, Dean. specifically sexually".
So she's fishing for information, and trying to cover all bases. She doesn't really have a working theory. :)
Oh wow, this is interesting to read. I took it as him being gone and having done something "crazy", and with the way he acts, that others might think he was under something's influence, despite the tests, and might cite Martin's behavior as proof that Dean was acting funny and shouldn't be listened to. So Ellen pointing that out and telling him to put up sand, I thought it was her hinting at him what the others would think and kind of protecting him, in that if he's got sand up and is (theoretically) incapable of being under that influence, the others can't go after him/question him/potentially turn against him.
Possibly partly that too, but more indirectly, I think. She really does have doubts, and really does need to poke at him to find out for herself; and once she is absolutely sure of him she'd be pretty confident of being able to do the OKAY YOU LOT NO HARASSING DEAN HE'S GOOD thing, but it'd definitely be helpful in that scenario to be able to offer concrete proof of the 'well, it can't be this because he was protected against it' variety. :)
From her point of view, most of the conversation was about testing Dean. How will he react if I mention this, will he get angry or sly in ways that don't feel like real!Dean if he's challenged, has he considered this.
The white sand specifically is a just-in-case, and a warning. Just-in-case, because their understanding of the supernatural world around them is far from complete, just bits and pieces and theories here and there. If Dean is under some kind of sexual influence, it may be that there's an incubus somewhere coming to him looking like Cas / using some old influence left by Cas; or it may be that angels are in fact more like incubi than had been previously thought. Basically, we know white sand works against something else that behaves similarly, so use that in case that is what's going on here. And as a warning? Well, saying USE WHITE SAND DEAN == "have you considered that something might be manipulating you into behaving in unnatural ways, Dean. specifically sexually".
So she's fishing for information, and trying to cover all bases. She doesn't really have a working theory. :)
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New perspective! Good to know.
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