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On Point had an excellent show today about immigration. It was taking the approach not of how do we handle the Mexicans that are already here, or how to prevent future illegals, but the bigger picture of what the past 5 years of immigration between the US and Mexico actually means for the two countries. The general consensus of the pundits was
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To address the actual points in your reply, I think that it is indeed foolhardy to protest persecution of clearly established laws that you broke. The fact that we didn't take legal advantage of the situation says something about how congress is going to resolve the "immigration crisis" (which has been brewing for about 2 years now).
As for why they are here when they think Mexico is not bad at all; this is a matter of economics. There are plenty of jobs that you can get under the table because you aren't documented. The money is better than the low-paying jobs in Mexico, and you can send the "extra" back to Mexico to improve the lives of your family/extended family. Furthermore, welfare isn't available without an SSN, which you can't get if you are an illegal. In fact, it would not be unreasonable for a company to make up people, get them SSNs and then split the wage between the illegal and the company, even going so far as to pay the Social Security Tax.
As for "Sucking at life", most of the illegals that live here do so because they find work. They can find work for 3 reasons. First, they have a good work ethic. Second because they live in conditions most American's have troubles conceiving. This enables them to live on smaller wages, which is attractive to companies that know there will be no repercussions. If congress really wanted to get rid of them it would simply be a matter of making the financial cost of employing them horribly unattractive. A per-offense charge equivalent to what it would cost to employ a full time worker for two year at minimum wage would do the trick, so long as it was also enforced.
However, my original post wasn't about what to do with our current illegals, or even how to fix the system. It was about what does all of it mean... What's the BIG picture.
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Im not sure which illegal immigrants you have worked with but there work ethic is a joke even to carlos mencia. They live in the same substandard situation they had in mexico, actually the guys at lehigh lived in worse conditions. They do get welfare ina sense in our coutry, and our government has even attempted to pass out ssn's so they may gain welfare. Believe it or not the mexican welfare system was mentioned to be in part to blame for the poverty line in mexico. I hadn't even conceived of that.
As for making big business pay more per offense, i don't think that would really solve anything. Our business will continue to employ that labor. If our officials will attempt to hand out social security cards and doesn't round up open illegal alien rallies, purely because of voting and the problem you mentioned maybe a year ago on the doomed collapse of a democracy. Not to mention lobbies, and the general nature of our economic system. I doubt more restrictions and fines will actually be enforced or successful. More restrictions lawsx ans hands generally make things worse.
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