Let's be clear: the script definitely had some questionable dialogue choices. But honestly, in terms of plot, I really don't think this movie is any weaker than Thor or The Avengers. In fact, the more familiar you are with Amanda Waller's character, the more the plot makes sense.
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No worries, I love hearing what other fans think!
I don't like the idea of Harley being an accomplice, because that's not really in her nature. She doesn't like to kill, you know? In the comics and cartoon it was more that if she did kill it was because she saw no other way to get to the end, you know?
I agree-- I've always seen her that way, too. Her original comics series also had her killing people, but being unaware that she was actually hurting them-- there was no "real life" in perception, just a Looney Tunes-esque type setting where people could withstand being electrocuted and having anvils dropped on their heads, when of course, they can't. Even then, she was never truly aware she was hurting anyone.
Another thing that irks me about this is that apparently the reason the Joker has those ugly-ass grills on his teeth is because Batsy beat the utter shit out of him when he killed Robin, and that's why he has 'Damaged' tattooed on his face - because he was 'perfect' and then Batman ruined his looks. Now, he has those grills when he meets Harley, I'm sure, so it doesn't make any sense because he's already killed Robin by the time he meets her in Arkham XD
That's a really good catch! The timeline seemed wonky to me because of Harley's age, but I couldn't pinpoint any other inconsistencies.
Something a friend of mine tweeted recently really hit me - when it comes to the Batman animated shows, they aren't afraid to shy away from dark storylines and the sort of hard-hitting scene, whilst the movies just don't seem to have the guts to do so. They cut out scenes of the Joker slapping Harley from SS and make their relationship 'romantic' (although I cannot see how that re-origin is romantic AT ALL), but the animated show was more than willing to make Mad Love into an episode and show just how abusive Joker is.
That's a good point! I definitely think the movie started out as depicting their relationship as dark (Harley's origin with the Joker torturing her) but then changed their minds. But perhaps they thought the Joker torturing her made her more sympathetic and wanted to set up a possible redemption arc? Though, then again, it doesn't really make sense for the writers to implicate her in Robin's death, then. But perhaps that's going to be part of a dramatic reveal? LOL, now I'm doing the overthinking.
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