I'm tired of this crap.

Apr 07, 2008 11:00

I'm just soooo tired about everybody and their brother complaining about that China vs. Tibet issue ( Read more... )

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wesha April 7 2008, 17:02:10 UTC
> Buddhism is a banned religion there. The penalty is death.

That's news, at least to me. However, you're missing my point. One just cannot ban a religion as a way of thinking; one can only ban a religion as a way of expressing oneself to the world. In other words, I don't see how I cannot practice whatever religion of my choice is behind the closed doors of my house. How would these prosecutors know? :-b

> If the nations of Central Africa decided to kill all the leopards to extinction, would you state that it's "their business" because it's their land and their affairs?

Instead of running around screaming "SAVE LEOPARDS!" I would rather raise money to buy out and relocate all the leopards to the leopard-friendly soil, where I would be damn well certain nobody's gonna go after them. And if some leopards decline to relocate, well, what can I do, if they're stupid enough to choose death over life, then they definitely deserve it. After all, you can't always have a cake and eat it too, life is such that sometimes every leopard must make a tough decision :-b

Of course, you waste millions and billions of dollars trying to stop them from killing leopards, but come on, the only real solution is to fix the roots of the problem, not the symptoms.

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xianjaguar April 7 2008, 18:53:47 UTC
In other words, I don't see how I cannot practice whatever religion of my choice is behind the closed doors of my house. How would these prosecutors know? :-b

Because there are 'moles' and betrayers everywhere, including your own family sometimes. A lot of people DO manage to hide it and practice in secret, but some are betrayed by people they thought were fellow believers. And China does a lot of really awful things to people they catch. They usually torture them in horrible ways for days until they die.

re: leopards.
It's hard to raise money without other people helping you by making donations. And for people to want to donate, you have to advertise the cause. And to advertise the cause and bring awareness, you have to say "SAVE THE LEOPARDS" and explain WHY, or else people won't see a need to donate to your cause.
So people running around yelling "save the leopards" (or Tibet or anything else) are merely trying to be the messengers to help spread the news so that people will know what's going on so they CAN take action.

Why the selectiveness? Again, it's advertising. People don't KNOW about all the different problems out there, they only know about some (Usually because those are major and there is a lot of killing involved), and those are the ones they're telling about.
For example: USA vs. Texas? I'm not even sure what you're referring to there!

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wesha April 7 2008, 18:58:51 UTC
Well, my point, again, is: stop running around shouting "SAVE TIBET"; just go ahead and offer a random Tibetian monk to live with your family. It's within your power.

After all, I don't run around yelling, "Help poor starving furry artists". I just go ahead and quietly help them. It's much more productive that way. :-b

And awareness of Tibet had been risen, like, 10 years ago. Start doing something productive already!

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xianjaguar April 7 2008, 19:08:30 UTC
Well, my point, again, is: stop running around shouting "SAVE TIBET"; just go ahead and offer a random Tibetian monk to live with your family. It's within your power.

But it's not that easy for the average person! It's *not* within their power.
1) Language Barrier. How do you TELL the Random Tibetian Monk? They don't speak English!
2) Money. How do you fly them over? Most people live paycheck-to-paycheck, and don't have money for expenses like that.
3) WHO? Who do you ask? How do you FIND a 'random Tibetian Monk'? The Phone Book?
4) Where? Where would they stay? In an apartment on the floor? Most average people don't own houses and they move a lot.
5) GREEN CARD. The Random Tibetian Monk isn't even ALLOWED to live in the USA! They can only stay here for so many months under a Passport, then they have to go back, unless they have some sort of skill that a company wants and needs, so that the company sponsors them, like they do with you. Otherwise, they get booted out. :(
6) Would the monk even WANT to come to the USA? Like those leopards that decline, the monk would most likely decline.

So the average person can only complain, in hopes that their cries will be heard by someone who can do something. Maybe there is no solution at all. ?

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redcardlion April 7 2008, 19:22:15 UTC
>Well, my point, again, is: stop running around shouting "SAVE TIBET"; just go ahead and offer a random Tibetian monk to live with your family. It's within your power.

Kinda hard to do that when the government bans their travel.

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:30:19 UTC
Look, after all, it's THEIR lives that are on the line. Do you expect ME to solve all THEIR problems?

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:40:24 UTC
I currently care and help out about 20 people, and a couple animal charities. Sorry monks, I'm not a Superman, and my "care list" is now full. Hope you'll find somebody else to care about you.

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:46:59 UTC
Oh, the amusing English language...
You failed to tell apart

care v. 2: to give care; to look after

and

care v. 1b: to feel interest or concern

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:51:57 UTC
Well, you started it. I care (provide care; look after) 20 people. I do not care (feel interest or concern) about Tibet.

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redcardlion April 7 2008, 19:39:37 UTC
Nope.

But, then again, if you're not going to speak out against the wrongs of this world, can you at least let us do it without criticism?

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:42:06 UTC
My point is: speaking (especially in an "off again, on again" manner) does not help as much as doing. So if you *really* want to help, start doing already!

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wesha April 7 2008, 19:48:49 UTC
I judge by the outcome.
Time spent chanting "Free Tibet": 10 years.
Result: 0 (zero).
Priceless?

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