Why rape is a sin (and it's not what you'd think)
Link-hopping on the internet can occasionally lead to some very interesting places. It can also lead to very scary places - or lead one to stumble on the complete and utter batshit.
Take this, a comment posted via a feedback form to the IAmAnAtheist blog:
Beware: this post discusses rape in an offensive manner and could be triggery. Content under a cut for that reason.
...rape doesn’t justify murder. Rape is nasty and it’s a sin (it’s adultery because they aren’t married and if the woman is a virgin or married it’s theft) but you can’t kill someone because of adultery or theft. Would you kill someone who your husband had relations with? That’s murder. Would you kill someone who stole your car? That’s murder. If killing for rape is murder than killing for just attempting to rape is even worse. The person’s dying for something they haven’t even done.
Atheists always use rape as an argument for justifying killing because they want to justify abortion. But is rape really that bad? It’s a horrible experience but you get over it with time. If you use it to justify murder you’re never going to get over it. Imagine you have a painful divorce. Would you murder your children after because they remind you of your ex husband? Of course not. I think any woman would easily tell you that a painful divorce is worse than rape but it’s not an excuse to kill your baby, so why is rape?
Christian women can also take a lot more than atheist women. Maybe this is part of the reason that atheists get so hung up about this. Christian women can turn to Christ or worship God in their hearts and endure great suffering. I’m not belittling it but think about it, no amount of suffering from rape is as great as the suffering our Lord suffered on the cross for our sins. You are the one who has to ask more true Christian women about this. You’re out of touch and trying to make a big deal out of something just for shock value.
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I don't even know where to start! Rape is theft if the woman is married? So, what? Women are nothing more than the possessions of their husbands? And, wait, the real crime in rape is against the husband, not the woman herself? Apart from many other ways in which this is wrong, on so many levels, does that mean that rape within marriage is not wrong?
And I think any woman would easily tell you that a painful divorce is worse than rape. Really??? Okay, what's the betting that the poster is male? (as well as being an utter fuckwit). Actually, see below: in a later comment on the blog he outs himself as male.
Christian women can also take a lot more than atheist women. I'd love to see the scientific proof of that. I'm surprised he didn't mention Joan of Arc.
You’re out of touch and trying to make a big deal out of something just for shock value. Um... seriously?
And there is actually a follow-up mail from the fuckwit, posted by the blogger here, in which we find this gem:
It makes no sense for it to be a sin for a man to rape his wife since a man can’t rape his wife. It’s just not logical, like stealing your own car or pocking your own pocket.
(I think Fuckwit means picking there). But, yes, clearly women are nothing more than their husbands' possessions, just like a car or the contents of his pocket - of less value than a dried-up pen. (And, of course, single women or non-heterosexual women either don't count or don't deserve to count).
And then Fuckwit posts a response in the comment thread, in which among other unbelievably stupid and offensive things he says:
I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me. Maybe it’s really different for women but you have to admit that on the surface it doesn’t make a lot of sense for something to be incredibly pleasurable if one person does it to you and horrible if another person does it to you.
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Yeah. I have no words. I am sure that my flist will make up for the deficit, however.
Take this, a comment posted via a feedback form to the IAmAnAtheist blog:
Beware: this post discusses rape in an offensive manner and could be triggery. Content under a cut for that reason.
...rape doesn’t justify murder. Rape is nasty and it’s a sin (it’s adultery because they aren’t married and if the woman is a virgin or married it’s theft) but you can’t kill someone because of adultery or theft. Would you kill someone who your husband had relations with? That’s murder. Would you kill someone who stole your car? That’s murder. If killing for rape is murder than killing for just attempting to rape is even worse. The person’s dying for something they haven’t even done.
Atheists always use rape as an argument for justifying killing because they want to justify abortion. But is rape really that bad? It’s a horrible experience but you get over it with time. If you use it to justify murder you’re never going to get over it. Imagine you have a painful divorce. Would you murder your children after because they remind you of your ex husband? Of course not. I think any woman would easily tell you that a painful divorce is worse than rape but it’s not an excuse to kill your baby, so why is rape?
Christian women can also take a lot more than atheist women. Maybe this is part of the reason that atheists get so hung up about this. Christian women can turn to Christ or worship God in their hearts and endure great suffering. I’m not belittling it but think about it, no amount of suffering from rape is as great as the suffering our Lord suffered on the cross for our sins. You are the one who has to ask more true Christian women about this. You’re out of touch and trying to make a big deal out of something just for shock value.
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I don't even know where to start! Rape is theft if the woman is married? So, what? Women are nothing more than the possessions of their husbands? And, wait, the real crime in rape is against the husband, not the woman herself? Apart from many other ways in which this is wrong, on so many levels, does that mean that rape within marriage is not wrong?
And I think any woman would easily tell you that a painful divorce is worse than rape. Really??? Okay, what's the betting that the poster is male? (as well as being an utter fuckwit). Actually, see below: in a later comment on the blog he outs himself as male.
Christian women can also take a lot more than atheist women. I'd love to see the scientific proof of that. I'm surprised he didn't mention Joan of Arc.
You’re out of touch and trying to make a big deal out of something just for shock value. Um... seriously?
And there is actually a follow-up mail from the fuckwit, posted by the blogger here, in which we find this gem:
It makes no sense for it to be a sin for a man to rape his wife since a man can’t rape his wife. It’s just not logical, like stealing your own car or pocking your own pocket.
(I think Fuckwit means picking there). But, yes, clearly women are nothing more than their husbands' possessions, just like a car or the contents of his pocket - of less value than a dried-up pen. (And, of course, single women or non-heterosexual women either don't count or don't deserve to count).
And then Fuckwit posts a response in the comment thread, in which among other unbelievably stupid and offensive things he says:
I’m a man and frankly I have a hard time imagining that I’d be traumatized for life if a woman forced herself on me. Maybe it’s really different for women but you have to admit that on the surface it doesn’t make a lot of sense for something to be incredibly pleasurable if one person does it to you and horrible if another person does it to you.
...
Yeah. I have no words. I am sure that my flist will make up for the deficit, however.