Hey fellas--

Jan 17, 2007 17:21

Those of you on here that I've met seem either to have this stuff down or have made reasonable choices to do things differently, but I'd bet money that you know someone who could use this advice:

http://www.bebetterguys.com/

Perfect? Of course not. But I think it does do a pretty good job of clueing in guys who could really use some clues.

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riurik January 18 2007, 18:30:17 UTC
I definitely see what you are saying. However, I can't help thinking of men in history, the ones I tend to admire, who were pretty unconcerned with these things and pretty unconcerned with dating as well. I feel, personally, that the to extent that I shave every morning, brush my teeth twice a day, dress carefully, etc., I am not doing something that I'm in any way morally obligated to do but rather doing something that satisfies my own vanity and satisfies social expectations that I think a lot of people are right to rebel against. Well, maybe not brushing my teeth - that's for health. Well, okay, a lot of the things on the site pertain to health, and that's undeniably important. But standards for dressing, etc.... I can't hear them discussed as some kind of an obligation without thinking about how these standards come about in society, what they mean sociologically, what they support and don't support, etc. If I had the strength to be anything I wanted, any way that I wanted to be, I think I would choose to be an antisocial genius who does something great with his life rather than a successful businessman with a beautiful home and a beautiful wife and shiny children.

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weizenwind January 19 2007, 03:20:01 UTC
Well, yes. If you don't care whether other people want to spend time with you, you can do exactly as your instincts tell you, provided you don't break too many laws. This website is not for you. However, for the hoards of men who do want to be social and don't understand how their behavior might be inhibiting their realization of that wish, it seems like this might be useful.

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