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Dec 31, 2004 19:10

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warallthetime45 January 2 2005, 16:39:58 UTC
First of all, the only similarity between this and Nam is the palm trees. I think you need to read up on your history. Also, i went through almost nine weeks of basic training, 7 weeks of individual training, and another 8 weeks of training to mobilize for this war without ever being told to kill without questioning. In fact, we had so much training on non lethal methods and how to minimalize the casualty rate that at sometimes, i wondered if i was even in the military. Please dont think that 'flags and ribbons' are a way of supporting war. They are there to support the troops, myself and my friends who are told what to do, and do not choose the missions they carry out. Before you start making accusations about 'horrific lies to the soldiers', please tell me specifically what lies, and what sources you got these from. Speaking of lies, how about john kerry in his lost cause at running for presidency. When he got back from nam, he claimed to have witnessed war attrocities, but as an officer in the navy, did nothing to stop them. Then recently, he claimed that he never saw them. So its my assumption that he either failed his duty as an officer, or he is still lying..either is pretty bad.

The big difference in this war is the protesting, you were right. But, the difference is the people who are protesting, in Vietnam, it was soldiers, now, its civilians. Don't you find it curious that about 70% of the military voted for Bush. Dont you think that if we, the people who are actually fighting this war and leaving our country and families had such a large problem with it, we would have voted for kerry, or not at all.

I dont think youre arguing at all. Im glad that you utilize your right to speak freely. If i didnt want your comments, i would disable commenting...please dont stop because we disagree. As passionate supporters of our respective causes, its our job to try and convince other people to listen to us. keep it up.

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aeonvolupz January 3 2005, 03:53:01 UTC
I dont think youre arguing at all. Im glad that you utilize your right to speak freely. If i didnt want your comments, i would disable commenting...please dont stop because we disagree. As passionate supporters of our respective causes, its our job to try and convince other people to listen to us. keep it up.

I so appreciate these words. I do not want you to be offended by my opinions.

I do hope you have a chance to read McNamara's book or see the documentary. I think I know history pretty well.

And I would be happy to discuss it -- and any of these (my sources may be hard for you to access, but worth the effort) :

Hidden Wars of Desert Storm (2000 documentary)
http://www.hiddenwars.com/

Hearts and Minds (1974 documentary)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A51347-2004Oct21.html
(available through amazon)

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