I don't actually like the sound of this much.

Dec 09, 2011 14:39

Empire's review of Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows.

"Breezing into their next case, Guy Ritchie, Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law unapologetically stick to the formula. This robust sequel doesn’t gaze intently at its navel, or require you to have boned up on a bewildering mythos or, God forbid, go darker. There is very little sense of personal ( Read more... )

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lathaina December 9 2011, 18:03:22 UTC
You're probably the first person I know that's not into the Game of Shadows. I think people (& Empire for that matter) need to be a little bit more rational around RDJ and his apparent "hotness" because, honestly speaking, he's not that good an actor. And neither is Stephen Fry, actually. He does stand up comedy well but not acting. (I used to be on the Fry bandwagon, but now, not so) I think that the comedy in AGoS is overly slapstick, too American and exceedingly farfetched for the source material.

I found BBC Sherlock quite alright. The graphics were excellently used. But now that you point it out, there should be a proper (read: intelligent) female character in the series, which it is currently lacking. I have not seen enough of Moffat's work to see whether he has a problem with females but the current situation in BBC Sherlock is decidedly not on.

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w_a_i_d December 9 2011, 18:28:16 UTC
Have you already seen it, then?

I wouldn't say I'm "not into it" as such, I have much more interest in it than the second series of Sherlock. I like RDJ as an actor -- but his performance as Holmes could easily tip over into caricature. I'm completely with you Fry (though, to be fair, Mycroft might be a pretty good fit for him).

Anyhow, I *want* AGoS to be good -- still playful and adventure-y, but with a little more depth than the first on -- and that review isn't what I wanted to hear.

Moffat really does have serious problems with women and writing female characters. He does, I think, genuinely try to work on these problems, and sometimes the results are excellent, but I feel like Sherlock is where he goes when he's tired of trying and wants to relax into a world where only men are important, competent or virtuous presences and women, if they're lucky, make the tea.

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tweedisgood December 9 2011, 20:25:42 UTC
Also, just read that Moffat Scotsman excerpt. Ewwwwww. What a load of utter, woman-hating tosh. This girl for one never *once* "played at being married", not to mention the fact that if one is continually told "that's what 'real' girls like" and "the sole end of your life is to get a man because you are worth nothing otherwise" what the hell else does he expect?
Totally surprised he managed to get married to a woman with as many brains as Ms Vertue seems to have.

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lathaina December 10 2011, 07:53:25 UTC
I'm sure most upperclass males could do "vaguely creepy" (see Gatiss as Mycroft in BBC sherlock) so it's not that far a stretch actually.

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w_a_i_d December 10 2011, 12:32:15 UTC
But Mycroft isn't creepy. Gatiss is the only one to play him that way, and that's the way he plays everything.

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lathaina December 10 2011, 12:43:46 UTC
More testament to his acting skills (or, rather, lack of) then

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shezan December 10 2011, 23:17:01 UTC
a... and Gatiss is lower middle class in real life.

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w_a_i_d December 12 2011, 21:17:32 UTC
I cannot count people who live in Islington and write regularly for major BBC dramas, as lower middle class. "Working class" and "upper class" might possibly be identities for life regardless of circumstances or finances if people insist on it, (although that sometimes gets ridiculous --hello Nicky Wire) but lower middle class just isn't. He's upper middle class.

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