metal + scene = shit
"But what is behind black metal ideology? The source of black metal is Venom: beer drinking, base-minded rabble, icons of heavy metal idiocy. The essence of black metal is heavy metal culture, not satanic philosophy. Just look at the black metal audience: the average black metal record buyer is a stereotypical loser: a good-for-nothing who was teased as a child, got bad grades at school, lives on social welfare and seeks compensation for his inferiority complex and lack of identity by feeling part of an exclusive gang of outcasts uniting against a society that has turned them down. And with heavy metal as a cultural and intellectual foundation, these dependants on social altruism proclaim themselves the "elite"! Hah! Could it be more pathetic?"
-Erik Lancelot of Ulver