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Aug 20, 2008 12:29

Download link for "White America" - VVC Fuck You Challenge 2008: Click for the Sendspace link (updated 8/16/10).Sorry about the subject heading, couldn't resist. ;) I've seen a few people here and there wondering if this vid would be uploaded anywhere since the vidder chose to stay anonymous. Sure, why not ( Read more... )

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counteragent August 20 2008, 18:25:47 UTC
The most cohesive interpretation of the vid that I heard during vid review* was that this was about all the things we (as fandom) may claim to not like about our sources (for example: violence, marginalization of CoC, and misogyny) but that we overlook anyway because we love our (white, pretty, sexy) shows so much.

By extension, that would mean that we as fandom don't actually WANT stories without violence. We don't mind plotlines that center around misogyny. And we don't REALLY care if there are more stories about CoC.

These are our deeply flawed shows, and we love them to distraction.

Which...ouch. If that's actually the meaning we are supposed to draw from the vid, then your vid is scathing criticism indeed.

*I'm paraphrasing someone smarter than I am and expanding on my interpretation of their view, so any mistakes in this interpretation are my own.

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mresundance August 20 2008, 18:29:57 UTC
YES. You beat me to it here! :D

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liviapenn August 20 2008, 18:48:27 UTC

These are our deeply flawed shows, and we love them to distraction.

Which...ouch. If that's actually the meaning we are supposed to draw from the vid, then your vid is scathing criticism indeed.Is it? I haven't seen the vid yet (still downloading) so maybe I won't actually think it's saying this, but if it *is* saying this-- well, it's *true*, isn't it? I mean, just in the sense that we're *still watching ( ... )

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mresundance August 20 2008, 21:43:57 UTC
"you've noticed that nearly every line of dialogue that Wallace gets, that isn't pure exposition about the case, you could tag on 'BECAUSE I'M YOUR BLACK FRIEND YO' and it would make sense?" . . . Even *offscreen* lines of dialogue that Veronica only responds to, like when she calls Wallace to help her out of the trunk of a car. Ouch. So even if he's offscreen, "we have to make sure the audience knows he's the black dude". That's not tolkenizing nor problematic because of the assumption that "everyone is white unless otherwise noted", which is longhand for white = default ( ... )

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veredus August 21 2008, 04:51:55 UTC
I'm going to have to expand on this more in my LJ but another way to interpret it is to see the three fandoms as three different case studies of three different types of bigotry: racism (Spike killings of non-white slayers), marginalism (VM's treatment of Wallace) and misogyny (Dean's treatment of women even if they are suppose to be demons ( ... )

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veredus August 21 2008, 04:57:29 UTC
elz was the third one, stupid fingers.

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tv_elf August 20 2008, 20:55:12 UTC
Which I can also see. Especially considering where those shows went with us following along.

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