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gaedhal January 4 2009, 07:05:47 UTC
My father was a biker (Harley Electra Glide -- a real hog)
and the whole biker thing is all about macho BS. People
who drive cars are "cagers" and people who ride Japanese
bikes, like Hondas, are "Rice-burners," etc. If you haven't
wiped out or practically killed yourself you aren't a true
"brother of the road." Hey, that stuff I wrote in "Medium
Security" about the bikers wasn't just off the top of my
head.

Italian bikes are considered pretty effete and "rich boy."
My uncle collected and restored Indians and even he was
considered a wannbe, even though Indians are classic
American rides. Anything but a Harley would be a
Pussy-machine.

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lucinda428 January 4 2009, 07:31:15 UTC
Interestingly, in Australia Harley riders are seen as guys who are overcompensating.

The "have-hads" appear to be a group who should have been given brain scans before their crashes.

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gaedhal January 4 2009, 08:08:13 UTC
No, the Harley is "it" -- nothing else is acceptable
to the hardcore bikers. There's no such thing as
overcompensating! It's all about overcompensating.

Actually, one of the most accurate portrayals of
bikers is in the film "Mask" about Rocky Dennis,
who had the elephant man disease.

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visitingagain January 4 2009, 13:49:27 UTC
I guess these guys won't be satisfied until they join the DOA club.

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stillife January 4 2009, 14:21:05 UTC
My ex-husband and all his friends had motorcycles - mostly Hondas, which would be considered "Japanese junk" by Harley riders. They used to hang out at diners in NJ, the land that time forgot.

My present husband has two scooters (Vespa and Lambretta) and a Japanese bike - Yamaha I think. Harley riders would consider him a total pussy! I call John and his scooter buddies the Heck's Angels.

Didn't Gale have a Ducati? One of my husband's friends has one - it's his only vehicle and he uses it to go grocery shopping. He packs his groceries into a bike bag and they always end up flat.

That's all I have to add to this conversation, except that I shudder when I think that I used to ride with my ex without a helmet, back in the 70's. The members of the "Have Had" club are clearly brain-damaged.

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visitingagain January 4 2009, 14:45:09 UTC
except that I shudder when I think that I used to ride with my ex without a helmet,

*shudders along with you*

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lady_jane January 4 2009, 16:38:19 UTC
I love that movie.

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