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Aug 10, 2006 19:40

Who's taking a vacation back at his ranch in TX?

Not these folksSo..wtf, US and France agree on the main points for a UNSC res? Just another band aid solution yeah? I listened in on a Eurasia Group teleconf today and heard some so-called expert talking about bringing the violence down to a "tolerable level" and that there is not "black or ( Read more... )

foreign policy, complaint, iran, bush

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summonillusion August 12 2006, 07:13:17 UTC
I'm actually curious as to whether there's any substantial evidence to deny the holocaust, although certainly the fact that people are put on trial for holocaust denial makes the mainstream conclusion unsettling (although I personally agree with it...I haven't read enough, though).

also it's not just that interview, it really makes me uncomfortable how much the holocaust and israel is tied together. jewish percecution was particularly bad, but when it came to the final solution, as I understand it, they pretty much killed everyone; even with some of those people who are not jews accidentally being killed, thought of as jews, over half of the people killed in the holocaust weren't jewish. this is because pretty much anything other than perfect aryan was pushed into the final solution.

making a state which is geared towards the self-protection of one particular group of people, made in a location which the majority of people who lived there was a completely different group of people (and for the self-protection state to work, those people must be pushed out or overwhelmed with a majority of the other group of people) doesn't seem to be the most efefctive way to fight discrimination in general to me. certainly, the kurds need their own state for the same reason right now. I definitely don't disagree with what a lot of both people are saying in that interview (especially because I feel both people are pushing so strongly their own agendas), and what iran's president is saying is so hypocritical to his own policies, it unsettles me (especially in regard to palestine). still, I can't help but feel that a lot of these key words are being used as political cards that also greatly distract from getting down to the roots of a lot of these problems.

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virtualso August 13 2006, 03:34:11 UTC
Yep, it's a fuct up dilemma. The sad truth is, no amount of war is going to ever solve this problem, so they'll continue to blast each other to pieces every so often. They'll reach that threshold of, "ok, I'm tired, lets take a break and resume when we're ready to kill each other again". As for the Kurds, I'm truly sorry that, after all this crazy mess, all they got was a lousy Presidency.

The root of all of this is within our current state of polity, period. Of course, this is all assuming that the essense of any political establishment is self preservation. Ahmadinejad's foreign policy is designed to adhere to the interests of the cleric establishment and Bush adheres to those of his clerical establishment...lol. Like you said, it's all about them political cards.

I'm just curious of how US policy will change when the current minority becomes the majority. I just can't see a bunch of Latinos worried about Israel.

and I hope Cheech becomes President one day and offers marijuana to G8 leaders at their summits. Then they'll eat pot brownies and get even more stoned, chill out to some Pink Floyd and realize how stupid it was to invent the bomb.

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summonillusion August 13 2006, 03:55:37 UTC
in fact, I think that's part of why there's kind of an immigration scare...also, because the majority of immigrants are catholics (since the US is protestant majority for the government....like presidents). I'm also kind of curious what it'll be like when spanish speakers become much less of a minority...I'm so tired of the "speak english" attitude, it's so american, in europe it's not that unusual to be bi-tri-quadralingual.

that kind of reminds me of what someone was saying here...

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virtualso August 13 2006, 05:57:00 UTC
dude, that community is genius. I couldn't stop reading.

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summonillusion August 13 2006, 07:02:28 UTC
glad you're interested in the information as well!

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summonillusion August 13 2006, 04:03:18 UTC
with the israel-palestine conflict, I really feel sorry for everyone. blame seems so pointless to me.....what I'm hoping is that israel becomes a secular state that doesn't have the agenda of just maintaining a jewish majority, something more akin to the US (or how the US is supposed to be)....a bipartisan state where the two could live together in peace...instead of fighting over the land...I wonder if an israel-palestine would work? I wonder how many people on each side would reject something like that?

http://www.givathaviva.org/
I'm grateful for organizations like that...

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