[spn tv] Unpopular opinion on 5.18

[vikki]

Firstly, I'm back from my trip, and it was awesome. Surprisingly awesome. I'm so far behind on my f-list and my 5.18 squee - I'll get around to replying to people eventually, I hope. In the meantime, however ...

HAPPY (BELATED) BIRTHDAY TO MARIO! You're a quarter-century old now

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[vikki]

The getting up in each other's personal space - yeah, that. Like I said in my rant, I do get that some of the visual clues are very erotic, but the scene taken as a whole ...?

Though I think the girlfriend/boyfriend analogy isn't the correct one, since Dean and Castiel aren't in a romantic relationship.
I do agree, although any guy beating up on a girl where the girl is getting tossed around like Dean is here would be regarded as horrifying.

I threw in the reference, however, because the people who are reacting to this scene as erotic or sexually intense are people who view the show through 'slash goggles' to some extent, e.g. people who draw on subtext (and sometimes text! WHAT SHOW) to extrapolate a romantic relationship between Dean and Castiel. If you're going to view them as a couple, I feel it's important that you acknowledge that this scene is problematic in a way not unlike an abusive relationship. (Especially this being an episode dealing specifically with angelic possession, which is spoken of in an overtly sexual manner throughout Show, and equates meatsuits with prostitutes in a subtextual manner: i.e. Dean is prostituting himself to Michael.)

But yes, the metaphor is more about relative power, and yes, the scene is deeply emotionally intense, and I can see why it would appeal to the emotional aspect of the Dean/Castiel pairing. Nonetheless, I find it very problematic to the pairing for the reasons I stated above.