Re:deathbed change of heartvijenoOctober 23 2007, 12:16:12 UTC
Talking about tantra and sexual knowledge, maybe it's best to think of this as a temporary solution. A crutch for the crutch, pardon the pun. You use it to get more in touch with your own desires, feelings and needs, and then you slowly start unlearning it again, and learn something else instead. Isn't it a great example of impermanence? Maybe another way to frame it is this: It is important to learn, and it's equally important to keep in mind what you're learning it for... it's for the pleasure of your body, the fulfilment of your soul, and ultimately "enlightenment." How intensely do you believe that sexual healing and sensual pleasuring are a step on the way to nirvana?
My partner shares this knowledge with me. She's still shy about talking too much straight sexual stuff... strangely, and contrary to my expectations, I found that this was not necessarily needed so much for us, in order to share this great experience. Sometimes I guide her a bit, push her a bit in some direction, but that's really more about variety and the mood of the moment.
Re: learning and unlearninge4qOctober 23 2007, 19:10:34 UTC
interesting! i know that from other things... i never thought what happens after tantra.
i certainly feel quite strongly about sex, but i hadn't thought of it as being a meditational practice as such. although, i don't see why not, after all, i certainly have had quite strong experiences even from, for instance, mindfulness of breathing.
i think, for women, often, talking, particularly during sex leads away from the moment. my feelings about it are quite contrary. i don't want to speak but i like to be spoken to, but it is better for there to be no speaking than for it to be 'wrong'.
i am currently separated from my partner, not because of relationship difficulties as such, but it has been a while and i almost can't imagine it now. so the whole question of what it could< be is completely academic for now.
Re: learning and unlearningvijenoOctober 24 2007, 09:43:44 UTC
Well, one tantric exercise is that you just visualize your breath streaming from your yoni up through the spine into your brain on inhaling - and then down through your forefront to the yoni again (and isn't it great to have such a mystical word for your genitals? I find this much more respectful than pussy, or even vagina.) ... With a partner, you can create a circle of breath through both of your bodies... You can also do it on your own if you like, of course. ;-) Hehe.
And you know, about questions being academic and such... everything changes! *g*
i had forgotten about doing that kind of breathing - do you know, i am quite daft, because i was told about that breathing technique in association with masturbation, so i practiced it for a long time on my own, but never thought of bringing it in to sex!
i am going to reinstate it, and if i ever do manage to have sex with another person again i will endeavour to remember to bring it in!
well, i sincerely hope that things do change, though exactly what things i will leave to the universe, since i can't control EVERYTHING!!!
My partner shares this knowledge with me. She's still shy about talking too much straight sexual stuff... strangely, and contrary to my expectations, I found that this was not necessarily needed so much for us, in order to share this great experience. Sometimes I guide her a bit, push her a bit in some direction, but that's really more about variety and the mood of the moment.
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i certainly feel quite strongly about sex, but i hadn't thought of it as being a meditational practice as such. although, i don't see why not, after all, i certainly have had quite strong experiences even from, for instance, mindfulness of breathing.
i think, for women, often, talking, particularly during sex leads away from the moment. my feelings about it are quite contrary. i don't want to speak but i like to be spoken to, but it is better for there to be no speaking than for it to be 'wrong'.
i am currently separated from my partner, not because of relationship difficulties as such, but it has been a while and i almost can't imagine it now. so the whole question of what it could< be is completely academic for now.
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And you know, about questions being academic and such... everything changes! *g*
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i am going to reinstate it, and if i ever do manage to have sex with another person again i will endeavour to remember to bring it in!
well, i sincerely hope that things do change, though exactly what things i will leave to the universe, since i can't control EVERYTHING!!!
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