Well, now

May 02, 2011 00:25

Working with Pakistan to get bin Laden - now THAT'S cooperation. Good job, guys ( Read more... )

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finding_neo May 2 2011, 12:28:43 UTC
We might rejoice, but this isn't over. He's now a martyr to the anti-American movement. Wonderful.

I am extremely disgusted by the celebratory nature of American's reactions. People are shooting off fireworks in some places.

I am sure there was rejoicing in the streets in the Middle East somewhere when the World Trade Center buildings came down.

An eye for an eye? We're a Christian nation, supposedly.....

Even if he had been captured, his sentence would have been death. I suppose that's the only thing the "other side" understands would happen to him as their view of life is different than ours.

I'm certainly not upset that he's dead, just that Americans think the world revolves around us.

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veronica_rich May 2 2011, 18:08:23 UTC
I vascillated last night, watching the news footage of the celebrations, between annoyed and understanding some of it. Those college kids - they've spent half their lives living and hearing about this, and two wars, one of which was ostensibly predicated on bin Laden (I think we've all given up the pretense Iraq ever was in the first place). You and I are probably too old to appreciate that, but I imagine it had a similar impact that seeing Challenger explode had on me back in grade school, with respect to the space program and space, period. Plus, there are people in NYC who were truly traumatized by this, being so close to what happened. I can understand their point in being at Ground Zero last night.

Still, yeah - I don't quite get it myself. I'll go so far as to say I'm glad he's gone, but "jubilance" isn't quite it.

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bellumed May 2 2011, 13:14:27 UTC
It's not superstition for me, I just don't understand the celebratory reaction. I'm glad we finally took him out, but I'm not dancing in the streets with my flag.

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veronica_rich May 2 2011, 18:09:23 UTC
I don't even think I have a flag, come to think of it ...

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nobleplatypus May 2 2011, 14:54:38 UTC
I, too, am uncomfortable with the celebratory reactions I've seen--not because I'm superstitious, but because there's just no way to celebrate someone's death without looking like an asshole. Don't get me wrong, I'm rather relieved that he's gone... but having an Ewok-style party over it seems distasteful.

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veronica_rich May 2 2011, 18:12:33 UTC
I'll tell you, if last night was the only revelry of that kind we're gonna see out of this, I'm prepared to forgive them. It was late at night, it was big news, and I'm sure highly political people on either side were gloating - Obama's that he gave the order to take him down, and Bush's that he started all this in the first place. I don't think people were thinking rationally.

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hippediva May 2 2011, 14:57:46 UTC
Thank you for voicing the same icky feelings I had last night! I was really disturbed by all the dancing in the streets and singing. It just seems to me very horrible to be celebrating anyone's demise, no matter how terrible that person might have been. But, that said, I can't be sorry he's gone. Definitely problematic.

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veronica_rich May 2 2011, 17:42:56 UTC
I can't take credit for being the first to feel it; Nat was extremely uneasy last night over all the mass rejoicing, and we discussed why that might be. I told her on the news, there was footage of people at Ground Zero celebrating, and in D.C., and I pointed out in those two places, I can kind of see their point - they were the ones that got hit, especially NYC. I'm willing to give them a pass for a day or two of over-the-top cheeriness, I suppose. (And honestly, for the college-aged people, consider that this manhunt/wars has taken up half their lives - I can see why it'd be a big deal to them too, I guess.) Although I will say, I think Obama handled the announcement decently - he came out, said his piece, and ambled off to bed, frankly looking pretty tired. No smirking or yeehaws, like someone I'm afraid I could have named at one point ( ... )

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hippediva May 2 2011, 18:12:01 UTC
*G* Yes....someone else one my flist wisely quoted Twain: "I do not wish the death of any man. But there are some obituaries I read with pleasure." Or something to that effect...and that sums up my feelings pretty well, if cynically. I understand how it is a big deal and I remember too well the tv footage of dancing in the streets in certain places on 9/11, which was horrible. Then again, it also seems to me that globally we're going backwards towards vicious and vengeful tribal mentalities and no amount of anything is helping to stop it ( ... )

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zagzagael May 2 2011, 15:35:15 UTC
*nods* Total agreement. It is a huge relief that this particular search is finally over and as far as justice being done, it does feel as though that chapter is closed. But yes, celebrating a death no matter how vicious the deceased...feels bad.

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veronica_rich May 2 2011, 18:15:55 UTC
I'm still trying to figure out what to make of all of it. Although, I'm heartened by my workplace ... I think. I work with a bunch of rednecks in the Midwest, and so far, nobody's been running through the halls cheering today, or even making a lot of noise about it. (Although I can't tell if it's because they're decent people, because it was Obama instead of their hero George, or a mixture. *G*)

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