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veritykindle

Those who do not remember history are comdemned to repeat it?

Feb 13, 2006 09:43

I never really believed that, but fandom sure makes it hard to argue with this statement...

( Fannish contemplation on the circular nature of kerfuffles. )

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kazbaby February 13 2006, 19:29:09 UTC

First of all, thank you for telling me what BNF means. I've been trying to figure out that sucker. ;) The answer I'd found when I googled was: Backus-Naur Form, and I was trying to figure out how in the hell that had to do with this.

I'm so not the best at finding answers via goggle. *snerk*

30 years? I thought you were like 24 or so. *gives you a weird look then hugs you for speaking up*

veritykindle February 13 2006, 19:52:36 UTC

I'm 27 (almost 28 *sigh* how time flies...). That article is *definitely* before my time. But *nothing* is hidden from the eagle eye of google, not even 30-40-year-old kerfuffles. *g*

(And hey, I just found the article, and it's from 1954, not from the 60's. So... at least a *50*-year-old argument, not 30! *sigh* You'd think we would have grown up at least a *little bit* since then, wouldn't we...)

*hugs you back* I was a little afraid to speak out, so I'm glad I didn't sound too stupid. :)

vilakins February 13 2006, 22:47:59 UTC

Wow, that was written in 1954? I note the use not just of 'BNF', but 'zine' and 'fen', terms I only learned this century after I became a fan. 'Neofan' seems to have been replaced by 'newbie' though. Fascinating stuff! I had no idea fandom went back that far.

veritykindle February 13 2006, 23:13:50 UTC

Isn't it interesting? I was *amazed* when I found that article. I even thought it might be a fake, but one of the people on that thread that prompted me to find it actually said that she remembered that author, back from his BNF days, and he *was* writing at around that time ( ... )

vilakins February 13 2006, 23:24:11 UTC

Well, I knew fandom predated the internet (because of all those second-hand B7 zines I had to buy to read stories by the Old Ones) and I believe people wrote Jane Austen and Sherlock Holmes fanfic way back then. I pretty much thought Fandom As We Know It started with Star Trek:TOS too.

I totally agree about Don Quixote. I must reread it now I'm a fan myself. :-P

veritykindle February 14 2006, 02:51:01 UTC

Oh! This is changing the subject a little bit, but you know what is really interesting to watch from a fannish perspective? The anime movie Millenium Actress. Have you ever seen it? I've watched it a while ago, and I found that I had a *really* different perspective on it than my non-fannish friends and family. I'd be interested to see if you had the same reaction to it that I did...

(And I seem to remember that I actually talked to you about this a while ago... I'm sorry if I'm repeating the same conversation over again... *g*)

vilakins February 14 2006, 03:14:57 UTC

I haven't seen it, but I remember you saying it was good. I'll keep an eye out for it. :-D

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