Hypo-allergenic Cats Followup

Jan 13, 2009 12:58

For those debating the extent to which various breeds are truly hypoallergenic, FYI, you too can own your very own genetically engineered hypoallergenic (at least based on the most common cat allergens) cat (only ~$7000) or leopard (only ~$37,000 ( Read more... )

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verin_the_brown January 13 2009, 19:12:01 UTC
This is the Animal Companion version of leopard, so it's not quite so big or fierce.

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echoweaver January 13 2009, 19:34:21 UTC
Holy crap. I've never heard of a pet "leopard."

"The ALLERCA GD cat comes in all coat colors and patterns." Yes, this site is a little creepy. I'd consider paying real money for a genuinely hypoallergenic cat, but it would be at least an order of magnitude less than that.

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enochs_fable January 15 2009, 17:59:24 UTC
Did you see the sad article about the first cloned dog?

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echoweaver January 15 2009, 18:02:39 UTC
Er. No?

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Beloved Pets Everlasting enochs_fable January 16 2009, 15:10:34 UTC
Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting echoweaver January 16 2009, 15:22:32 UTC
Oh, wait, I did read this. I just found it interesting rather than sad. The said part is that the first cloned dog was rejected by the mother of the cloner as not being enough like the original? That really did seem immature. Poor dog.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting enochs_fable January 16 2009, 15:35:58 UTC
Well, yeah, that's the part I thought was sad.

Immature, perhaps, but it's interesting that the scientist's step-father was the one who came up with the idea of cloning the dog, the mom had already adopted a puppy and wasn't done grieving the loss of the first one. It's not clear to me the mother ever wanted the clone - like it was a well-intentioned gift with bad results.

I don't know that I'd be able to deal with a clone of a pet I wasn't finished grieving.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting echoweaver January 16 2009, 15:42:26 UTC
Mmmm. Good point. The article never really described the mother as an active participant in the cloning project.

I admit that when I think of the Menace dying (sigh -- he seems so thin and frail these days, though no kinder for all that), the idea of getting a similar cat, even a similarly COLORED cat, bothers me. I think I would be very bothered at the idea of someone cloning a dearly departed pet. (Yes, nobody, not even me, would ever want two of Menace, but I mean in general. :) )

And yet ljedi reports that most of their normally unadoptable rescue cats tend to go to people who saw them on the website and say, "She looks JUST LIKE my beloved Fluffy!" And then the potential owners don't care about the behavior or health problems; they just want the shadow of the lost pet back. I admit that I don't get it, but I'm sure those are also the kind of people who would want to clone a pet.

Would you ever think of cloning a dearly departed pet?

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting enochs_fable January 16 2009, 16:34:47 UTC
Does she have a feel for how long has passed since the death of their pet for folks who end up seeking out one "JUST LIKE" Fluffy ( ... )

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting echoweaver January 16 2009, 16:38:37 UTC
I bet these people have done most of their grieving and the shadow is enough of a hook.

I'm not sure I understand the way you see grieving. I take the strong desire to replace a pet with a copy as close as possible to the original as a sign that grief is still fresh and hasn't been processed. I'd think that if you were done grieving, you'd look for a pet that's a good pet on its own merits.

I don't think I'd want a similar-colored pet after losing one, unless it was physically dissimilar enough (ie likely no yellow lab following yellow lab) that there was no mistaking them for each other.

Yeah, this is how I feel.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting enochs_fable January 16 2009, 18:32:48 UTC

I'm not sure I understand the way you see grieving. I take the strong desire to replace a pet with a copy as close as possible to the original as a sign that grief is still fresh and hasn't been processed. I'd think that if you were done grieving, you'd look for a pet that's a good pet on its own merits.

Probably.

However, I'm just thinking aloud there, guessing and not stating firm convictions - that was why I was wondering if ljedi had any guesstimates of time-lines since pet-death to new adoption for that sub-set of people who wanted one just like the old one. I don't really grok that kind of thinking, so it's not clear to me whether it's simply that the physical resemblance is sort of a comforting reminder of their past pet or what.

You yourself said that they don't care about behavior, so it's not clear that simply wanting a pet that looks like the old one is equivalent to wanting a clone that looks and behaves like the old one.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting echoweaver January 17 2009, 13:09:33 UTC
The impression she gave was that these people were so overwhelmed by the physical resemblance that nothing else you said really mattered. But I don't know if that means that they don't mind the personality differences or if they're just so swept up the resemblance that they're not really hearing.

I think wanting a clone of your pet is a more extreme example of the same behavior. And it seems to me that it's one doomed to failure. A clone still isn't your pet with a second life. Genetics are only part of the picture. It will inevitably become its own creature.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting verin_the_brown January 17 2009, 14:15:28 UTC
I don't think I would want to clone my child if he died accidentally and cloning human's were possible.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting echoweaver January 18 2009, 00:12:07 UTC
Ugh. I couldn't agree more.

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Re: Beloved Pets Everlasting enochs_fable January 20 2009, 14:50:52 UTC
But I don't know if that means that they don't mind the personality differences or if they're just so swept up the resemblance that they're not really hearing.

Nod. It's an interesting phenomenon.

I do definitely agree that the clone thing doomed to failure for exactly those reasons. It's really sad the mom didn't even seem to see it as a "real dog."

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