"I guess so," said the blond ex-tin man in the duster...

Apr 14, 2008 11:14

What is up with the burly detectivism in Tin Man?  Never have I encountered a fandom so dead set on replacing characters' names and pronouns with ridiculous sounding proxies.  And passive voice!  With a verb that takes an object!  How can that even sound right to an author?

ETA: Ye gods and little fishes!  *stares at ballooning comments*

fandom, tin man, fic, grammar

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blade_girl April 14 2008, 15:34:00 UTC
Never have I encountered a fandom so dead set on replacing characters' names and pronouns with ridiculous sounding proxies. And passive voice! With a verb that takes an object!

Not to mention unfounded sexual attractions, and canon-free characterizations, and Harlequinesque plotlines, and overwrought dialogue, and... and...

Um.

Sorry.

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 15:34:28 UTC
Yeah, but you can get that everywhere.

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blade_girl April 14 2008, 15:39:42 UTC
You can get the everything-but-the-character's-name phenomenon in other fandoms, too. SGA is full of "said the stocky, short-tempered scientist with the deep blue eyes" and so forth. Usually, it's the less experienced writers and those who really don't do a lot of reading (outside of fanfic), both of which are fairly common among younger fans. This fandom seems to have a lot of younger writers, so perhaps it's a function of the median age.

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 15:42:18 UTC
Huh. There was none of it in Harry Potter, even with the made-to-order stock phrase, and we were drowning in teeny-boppers. Also, none in POTO, which is likewise neck deep in fankiddies. I guess I'm just spoiled.

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blade_girl April 14 2008, 15:50:23 UTC
Ah, well, Harry Potter fans may well be slightly better acquainted with writing conventions, since they are at least readers of books. I would venture to say that most of the kiddies writing fanfic other kinds of fandoms - tv shows, anime, manga - don't read proper books often enough to internalize the way things should read.

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 15:54:58 UTC
I've heard that said about book fandom vs. TV fandom. I suspect it's true, but I've got to say, Rowling is not exactly a role model for elegant and correct prose (or good story writing, for that matter).

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moony_blues April 14 2008, 16:11:10 UTC
So I'm not the only one who thought that DH read more like bad fan fiction? YAY! =D

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 16:12:50 UTC
Bah! She jumped the shark in book four. We just didn't know it yet.

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moony_blues April 14 2008, 16:19:43 UTC
You're probably right. I need to read those books again this summer...

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 16:20:39 UTC
I don't recommend it.

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moony_blues April 14 2008, 16:23:37 UTC
I might need the mindless escape... =P

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erinm_4600 April 14 2008, 16:00:45 UTC
ah... The Boy Who Lived did this, He Who Must Not Be Named cursed that guy, the twitchy little ferret got his feelings hurt...

*gigglesnort*

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 16:03:09 UTC
Except they didn't do that. Other than "He Who Must Not Be Named," which is a legitimate proxy, I never saw that kind of renaming, and I've seen plenty of crappy HP fic. It's really puzzling.

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erinm_4600 April 14 2008, 16:05:25 UTC
and I've seen plenty of crappy HP fic

*hugs*
*plate of Caingerbread*

Sorry, hun... I just can't get myself into a serious-frame of mind today...

I blame the eyecandy from gatechic
*needs to buy that movie now*

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verilyverity April 14 2008, 16:05:58 UTC
Ohm nom nom nom.

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