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eumelia September 9 2012, 19:39:47 UTC
As you know, this is a squick pairing for me, it's incestuous in a way I find utterly unethical.

But you sold me the fucked up dynamic. And, ultimately, I'm a kinkster and this is massive amounts of kink done well in bad circumstances.

I hate Joe here. I love what he does to Steve. I'm angry at Steve that he's so reckless. I want to give him a hug and wipe away his tears and tell him it doesn't have to be this way.

So, yeah.

This moved me.

Great job, bb.

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verasteine September 9 2012, 19:48:30 UTC
EEEEEEEEEEEEEE!! *runs around randomly for a bit*

I'm so glad it sold you! It is incestuous in certain ways and should be something questionable, or it doesn't work.

Yeah, Steve is fucked up, but the way he lets Joe treat him in canon reflects that, and well, I turned that to porn because. Um.

Thank you!

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gennfa September 9 2012, 20:07:45 UTC
Weird. I don't ship or slash but I did read this story and um.. I did like it. It's what I don't get at the moment.

But anyways. I liked it. :)

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verasteine September 9 2012, 20:14:43 UTC
Thank you for reading! I'm intrigued by your comment. Would you be willing to elaborate?

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gennfa September 9 2012, 21:03:04 UTC
Hm. Let me try.

but the way he lets Joe treat him in canon reflects that, and well, I turned that to porn because. Um.

(Quoting you here.)
Mabye that's a reason. I never really liked Joe that much. Yeah, he helped Steve and the team but he was always lying to Steve and in this it's shown nicely how .. bad he's treating Steve. Even if this is kind of extreme and Steve asked for it. Oo

And probably because the whole time I just want to give Steve a big hug and say "It's okay."

Does that make sense? I've never read anything slashy being higher rated than R, I think so I'm quite a newbie on this terrain. :)

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verasteine September 9 2012, 21:15:39 UTC
Wow, you never read slash rated higher than R, and you started with this? That must have been a shock.

Yeah, it makes sense, I think. It was my purpose with this fic, to highlight how fucked up their canon dynamic was, and how much Steve cooperated in his own suffering in that regard. Okay, I turned it into porn, because I am strange, but still.

I spend a lot of time wanting to hug Steve and make things okay :).

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still_glorious September 9 2012, 21:35:20 UTC
nice. defintely nice. corporeal punishment military style. extra nice. sweet deliciously dark. great job! (this is very lame review but you had steve saying 'yes,sir' far too many times to make this coherent;)

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verasteine September 9 2012, 22:26:20 UTC
Oooh, glad you like, thank you very much. (Um, I'm sorry? Somehow, I'm not :P)

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mcparrot September 10 2012, 08:16:18 UTC
Saw the pairing (and that's just WRONG), read the warnings and nearly didn't read. Nearly stopped reading about half way in but got to the end.

You write such compelling stories that I wanted to see what you were going to do with it. In a way I'm glad you didn't go the typical BDSM happy-ever-after version of the cathartic breakdown and stupendous orgasm. I really would have disliked an ending like that.

I think Joe pretty much used and abused Steve all through series 2 and I see from your comments that you took that and expanded it. You did a good job. It was brutal, uncomfortable and squicked me (it's okay, I chose to read) but gave a really good look at their dynamic and how broken, damaged and needy Steve is.

Personally I think some good hugs and some loving sex would be a much better cure for what ails Steve.

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verasteine September 10 2012, 15:31:50 UTC
This isn't an easy fic, no. I don't romanticise the pairing or the subject matter. But I'm glad you managed to finish and that you gave it a chance.

This couldn't have a happy ending, because canon doesn't have one. And yeah, Joe uses Steve, definitely. "brutal" is a very good word for it.

Thank you for reading; I'm glad this found an audience.

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citrinesunset September 10 2012, 13:41:38 UTC
I had to give this a read, and I'm glad I did. The kink is great here in a somewhat dark way, and I like how you made it about Steve's relationship with Joe, Steve trying to deal with his demons, and Joe being brutal. I think the harshness works well here.

And ouch. I like rough impact play, but even I felt sorry for Steve. He took a lot.

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verasteine September 10 2012, 15:33:17 UTC
"Somewhat dark", I think I like the circles you usually hang out in :). It's harsh and it's brutal, but once I got going with this, I knew it couldn't be any other way, not with who these two are.

And yeah, it's rough. Steve is a Navy SEAL, I wouldn't have gone this far with any other character, tbh. He took a lot because that's what he's used to taking. Thank you for reading!

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