You can get it on a shirt. *nods* Go write it up and press it on.
Is there some subtle institutionalized racism in this fandom? Hell yes. Is it that girl's fault? Hell No. Is her fic the biggest offender? Hell no.
There might be some undercurrent going on in fandom, but I tend to avoid people that I don't like. If they offend me, I avoid. It's a simple technique. I guess what I mean is that I haven't noticed it, and it's not because I'm a racist. I live in the South; I see real racism every day in real life, on both sides. It was simply a niche that she thought Ronon would fill because he tends to thwap Rodney upside the head verbally when the man needs it. Personal views. He wasn't in that cell, locked away.
Listening to them, I was more concerned about the classism in the fappers. Being a service oriented job is no less honorable than a doctor. Both are necessary to keep society going. To holler about one prejudice and then turn turn around in order to clamor another kind is beyond stupid. It showed, to me, that the man needed to check his *own* priorities before calling someone else out.
Reading the wank and links involved, even her polite response to him was considering condescending because if it doesn't change in all her future AUs, then she was just paying lip service. Instead of just writing what she wants to.
Apparently the expendition-turned-animals is wrong, wrong, wrong, too. It shouldn't be allowed. The sense of entitlement is bowling me over this week. It's a ridiculous amount.
*squees with you, but quietly since you're working*
There might be some undercurrent going on in fandom, but I tend to avoid people that I don't like.
Yes, exactly. The fic I started reading that had Teyla as barely literate? I stopped reading, and avoid the author like the plague because clearly that person is not my kind of writer/person. But if wank had started over that I'd have been all for it, because that was fucking bullshit.
I'd probably be thinking differently if this wank had started in a different way, but it sprung over a fic that is just not the kind fic anybody should be getting all up in arms over. I mean damn kids.
There is some definite racism/sexism going on in this fandom, and man some of the shit that's come out of this wank makes me want to avoid sooo many damn people. Like whoever the hell posted that racism doesnt count with Aliens...even though most of the wank is around Earth based AU's. Oh SGA fandom, this is what happens when half the fandom see's part of the season early and folks get bored, Sci Fi Channel!
*SQUEES some more over new EPISODES!!! WOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!*
The fic I started reading that had Teyla as barely literate? I stopped reading, and avoid the author like the plague because clearly that person is not my kind of writer/person.
Precisely. You avoid people like the plague and move on with it. You don't leave a comment, you tell people your interpretation in a proper setting (journal, IM, email, etc), and move on. It's not brain surgery.
There is some definite racism/sexism going on in this fandom, and man some of the shit that's come out of this wank makes me want to avoid sooo many damn people. Like whoever the hell posted that racism doesnt count with Aliens...even though most of the wank is around Earth based AU's.
There might be, but you know, it's the ONLY fandom. There are issues in every single one. Like HP is batshit for the most part, especially with their ships. Buffy had some serious shipper issues, too. Along with some lack of strong women staying that wasn't Buffy.
I'm halfway thinking of just leaving the fandom and not joining any other one for a long while. It's not worth the hassle. It's really not. You can't just have fun in the fandom anywhere. It's all about political statements now. It's gotten to where I really don't want to deal with the overabudance of crusaders.
I don't like Wincest, so I avoid it. I don't like Veronica/Duncan, so I read the pairing warnings and click out of I see it. Same thing applies to this whole debate.
Precisely. You avoid people like the plague and move on with it. You don't leave a comment, you tell people your interpretation in a proper setting (journal, IM, email, etc), and move on. It's not brain surgery.
Oh I know, there has just been some really bad manners going on hardcore this week. And I dont even know where all the anger and venom is coming from. Why can't we all just get along? Especially the last round of stupid ass behavior, I swear I feel like I've suddenly joined the Grey's Anatomy fandom. I mean damn kids.
If something offends me I stop reading, I dont leave feedback, I never rec that person's work, that person does not exist to me. Mission accomplished kids! Of course on the otherside there's plenty of people wanking for the sake of wanking (cats? wtf?), etc, etc, etc. I'm not reading any more of the wank. I'm done, I quit, fuck that crazy, crazy, noise.
I'm halfway thinking of just leaving the fandom and not joining any other one for a long while. It's not worth the hassle. It's really not. You can't just have fun in the fandom anywhere. It's all about political statements now. It's gotten to where I really don't want to deal with the overabudance of crusaders.
DONT LEAVE ME!!! You can't leave me alone with these nutbags man! Come on we can glee and talk and not be crazy ass bitches in our own journals!
I don't like Wincest, so I avoid it. I don't like Veronica/Duncan, so I read the pairing warnings and click out of I see it. Same thing applies to this whole debate.
I dont like Veronica/Duncan or Veronica/Logan so I'm pretty much shit out of luck with that fandom, I dont like BSG very much at all anymore so thats gone. I just want my Surfacing Zine so I can have wank free fic.
*WHY IS IT NOT FRIDAY THE 13th YET?!?!?! GATES!!!!!*
And I dont even know where all the anger and venom is coming from.
People with entitlement issues. That's the crux of it all. I don't like Livia for the most part, I don't speak to her or anything. I broke that rule over the recent meta, but typically I don't. I don't agree with her, that much I know. There's another wank report, already. Way to go, fandom. You fail. All around.
You can't leave me alone with these nutbags man!
When fandom stops being fun for me, I leave. It's better for my sanity. I can't help it. It's that logic problem I have. It's not fun when I'm pretty much implied to be a racist, simply because I'm white. You know me, I don't judge people based on that. But that's what it's coming down to in fandom. I don't work that way. It's not right, or fair.
*WHY IS IT NOT FRIDAY THE 13th YET?!?!?! GATES!!!!!*
If I still have my job, I will be working that weekend.
You can get it on a shirt. *nods* Go write it up and press it on.
Is there some subtle institutionalized racism in this fandom? Hell yes. Is it that girl's fault? Hell No. Is her fic the biggest offender? Hell no.
There might be some undercurrent going on in fandom, but I tend to avoid people that I don't like. If they offend me, I avoid. It's a simple technique. I guess what I mean is that I haven't noticed it, and it's not because I'm a racist. I live in the South; I see real racism every day in real life, on both sides. It was simply a niche that she thought Ronon would fill because he tends to thwap Rodney upside the head verbally when the man needs it. Personal views. He wasn't in that cell, locked away.
Listening to them, I was more concerned about the classism in the fappers. Being a service oriented job is no less honorable than a doctor. Both are necessary to keep society going. To holler about one prejudice and then turn turn around in order to clamor another kind is beyond stupid. It showed, to me, that the man needed to check his *own* priorities before calling someone else out.
Reading the wank and links involved, even her polite response to him was considering condescending because if it doesn't change in all her future AUs, then she was just paying lip service. Instead of just writing what she wants to.
Apparently the expendition-turned-animals is wrong, wrong, wrong, too. It shouldn't be allowed. The sense of entitlement is bowling me over this week. It's a ridiculous amount.
*squees with you, but quietly since you're working*
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Yes, exactly. The fic I started reading that had Teyla as barely literate? I stopped reading, and avoid the author like the plague because clearly that person is not my kind of writer/person. But if wank had started over that I'd have been all for it, because that was fucking bullshit.
I'd probably be thinking differently if this wank had started in a different way, but it sprung over a fic that is just not the kind fic anybody should be getting all up in arms over. I mean damn kids.
There is some definite racism/sexism going on in this fandom, and man some of the shit that's come out of this wank makes me want to avoid sooo many damn people. Like whoever the hell posted that racism doesnt count with Aliens...even though most of the wank is around Earth based AU's. Oh SGA fandom, this is what happens when half the fandom see's part of the season early and folks get bored, Sci Fi Channel!
*SQUEES some more over new EPISODES!!! WOOOOOO HOOOOOO!!!!*
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Precisely. You avoid people like the plague and move on with it. You don't leave a comment, you tell people your interpretation in a proper setting (journal, IM, email, etc), and move on. It's not brain surgery.
There is some definite racism/sexism going on in this fandom, and man some of the shit that's come out of this wank makes me want to avoid sooo many damn people. Like whoever the hell posted that racism doesnt count with Aliens...even though most of the wank is around Earth based AU's.
There might be, but you know, it's the ONLY fandom. There are issues in every single one. Like HP is batshit for the most part, especially with their ships. Buffy had some serious shipper issues, too. Along with some lack of strong women staying that wasn't Buffy.
I'm halfway thinking of just leaving the fandom and not joining any other one for a long while. It's not worth the hassle. It's really not. You can't just have fun in the fandom anywhere. It's all about political statements now. It's gotten to where I really don't want to deal with the overabudance of crusaders.
I don't like Wincest, so I avoid it. I don't like Veronica/Duncan, so I read the pairing warnings and click out of I see it. Same thing applies to this whole debate.
*Sooon! Soooon! Two weeks!*
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Oh I know, there has just been some really bad manners going on hardcore this week. And I dont even know where all the anger and venom is coming from. Why can't we all just get along? Especially the last round of stupid ass behavior, I swear I feel like I've suddenly joined the Grey's Anatomy fandom. I mean damn kids.
If something offends me I stop reading, I dont leave feedback, I never rec that person's work, that person does not exist to me. Mission accomplished kids! Of course on the otherside there's plenty of people wanking for the sake of wanking (cats? wtf?), etc, etc, etc. I'm not reading any more of the wank. I'm done, I quit, fuck that crazy, crazy, noise.
I'm halfway thinking of just leaving the fandom and not joining any other one for a long while. It's not worth the hassle. It's really not. You can't just have fun in the fandom anywhere. It's all about political statements now. It's gotten to where I really don't want to deal with the overabudance of crusaders.
DONT LEAVE ME!!! You can't leave me alone with these nutbags man! Come on we can glee and talk and not be crazy ass bitches in our own journals!
I don't like Wincest, so I avoid it. I don't like Veronica/Duncan, so I read the pairing warnings and click out of I see it. Same thing applies to this whole debate.
I dont like Veronica/Duncan or Veronica/Logan so I'm pretty much shit out of luck with that fandom, I dont like BSG very much at all anymore so thats gone. I just want my Surfacing Zine so I can have wank free fic.
*WHY IS IT NOT FRIDAY THE 13th YET?!?!?! GATES!!!!!*
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People with entitlement issues. That's the crux of it all. I don't like Livia for the most part, I don't speak to her or anything. I broke that rule over the recent meta, but typically I don't. I don't agree with her, that much I know. There's another wank report, already. Way to go, fandom. You fail. All around.
You can't leave me alone with these nutbags man!
When fandom stops being fun for me, I leave. It's better for my sanity. I can't help it. It's that logic problem I have. It's not fun when I'm pretty much implied to be a racist, simply because I'm white. You know me, I don't judge people based on that. But that's what it's coming down to in fandom. I don't work that way. It's not right, or fair.
*WHY IS IT NOT FRIDAY THE 13th YET?!?!?! GATES!!!!!*
If I still have my job, I will be working that weekend.
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