Undesirable: Chapter 12

[velvet_mace]

TITLE: Undesirable (A vampire novel)
RATING: NC-17 (This chapter R)
GENRE: Porn with plot -- heavy on the plot. Action/adventure, some black humor, some romance.
PAIRINGS: George x everyone. Mostly Slash, some het, three and moresomes. Vampire sex.
WARNINGS: (this chapter) violence.
WORD COUNT: 5472

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[drelfina]

Of all the things to happen to Lady Darlene, that was NOT what I expected.

*calms heart*

And Lord Jeffery - despite his act, despite his pomposity, his arrogance, there's something pretty sympathetic about him, mostly in the tiny glimpses that appears to be sponatenous or when he's surprised. And how he took care of Wally.

God, I'm so sorry for him. I hope there was NOT a mental link between them, because... because...

For his sake I hope that the Lady Darlene is safe. T_T

[velvet_mace]

Out of curiosity what were you expecting to happen with Darlene?

I'm trying to make Jeffrey into a fun bad-guy. It sounds like I'm succeeding. :D

There was no link between Wally and Darlene. She was waaaay too busy to bother with him at that point. And Jeffrey would have shielded him anyway. Jeffrey may be totally insincere and manipulative, but he's got his limits. I think being in a strange vampires house while she and her friends rips your patron to pieces in front of you is traumatic enough.

[drelfina]

I... I don't know. Utter humiliation, perhaps, or something else... I did not expect the vampires to totally rip into her, tearing her into bloody chunks.

He IS... I know I've managed to make some bad-guys like that. Fun and you just can NOT hate him, can't help LIKING him. Except you really hope you won't ever meet such a person in real life, because DAMN is he manipulative.

Poor Wally. Poor George. I hope Wally forgives him. :(

(Also, when Nadette asked for Jeffery's forgiveness, the first thing I thought of was D&S's sort of sub. Not merely vassal status. But that's because I have a dirty, dirty mind.)

[velvet_mace]

Vampire submission is thing unto itself. When mind powers are included, it can't just be ordinary servitude. Nadette of course wouldn't be interested in Jeffrey sexually, but she'd have gotten her worth out of him if he'd agreed. I think he'd much rather have it be a D&S sort of thing.

Oh yeah, no, Jeffrey would be a terrible person to meet IRL. A normal person would be toast in his hands.

I have met an engaging, charismatic, manipulative and fun sociopath IRL before. Thank goodness, he had no interest whatsoever in me and he had no sadistic tendencies. One of those rare genuinely nice people who simply and pathologically can't tell right from wrong. He was utterly fascinating to watch, real popcorn material. He walked in the room and you just sat back for the show. Eventually his sociopathy caught up with him and he got tossed in jail for something he considered entirely reasonable but was unbelievably illegal. To this day, I don't think he has a clue what he did wrong or why he was prosecuted.

[drelfina]

I would bet it is. Vampire submission is probably like the ultimate of submission, in a way.

Yeeeeah. Jeffery.

Now you've made me curious! A genuinely nice person who's a sociopath?

Which does mean that he's logical? I suppose? Or he can't imagine other people having feelings/being real? Or he just can't percieve the law/rules as being applied to him/making logical sense? (which does make sense because a lot of laws are social constructs...)

[velvet_mace]

It meant he didn't get caught up with the law until he was in his 30's because most of the time he agreed with the law. His biggest motivation was to have people like him, so he generally didn't do things that pissed people off. Despite this, he was a genuine sociopath. Just talking for a while with him and it became obvious that he simply couldn't comprehend that anyone could ever have a problem with anything he did. What he did was good by his own definition. If anything went wrong he was odd in that he didn't blame anyone else -- he just argued that it wasn't wrong in the first place. We'd be like "Lance, shouldn't you be more careful about crashing your car?" and he'd just shrug and say. "Nah, it's fine, insurance takes care of it." Of course these weren't his personal cars that he was crashing -- they were his work cars -- he was a cop.

[drelfina]

.... he was a COP?

*boggles vaguely at the idea* It reminds me of Judge Dredd - he's not even very POLITE or cares about what people thinks of him, because he is the LAW.

So he's just never wrong? no matter what he does? Like what if he went out in the cold and got frostbite? It's the fault of his clothing?

[velvet_mace]

Thirteen year veteran when he got thrown in jail. It made sense. He liked being powerful and in control, and he got to boss around the "bad guys" which he considered fun. He wasn't a great cop, but his lack of sadism was a real boon in that he wasn't tempted to rough people up. I got the feeling that tended to throw the book at people, some of whom didn't actually deserve it. And if it ever turned out that he was mistaken, he shrugged it off with an "oh well, shucks, guess that wasn't right." But absolutely no guilt or regret or any feeling he shouldn't have thrown the book at them. His job was definitely a game to him -- like you or I role playing being a cop

[drelfina]

hmm. Interesting. Reminds me of some of the cops I read about in the papers, who don't seem to care that they'd wrongly arrested people - on the other hand, your cop has at least the puppy-appeal.

You know, that DOES sound very much like Jeffery. Only Jeffery's more... manipulative than this cop-guy.Are all vampires like that?

I wonder what a vampire with a conscience would look like. Though not necessarily one who has a conscience FOR humans - even a conscience with regards to other vampires/vampire society?

[velvet_mace]

Jeffrey is heaps brighter than Lance and a lot more manipulative -- and he isn't a sociopath. He simply has a different set of laws than humans that he lives under. It's more a cultural difference than a "missing part of the basic wiring" difference.

The vampires would say they have a conscience. They just also happen to know that they are entitled to own humans. Not just entitled -- they have a responsibility to own humans.

[drelfina]

well, vampires being a totally different species, their conscience would look very different from ours. And us being so anthrocentric, would expect a conscience-able being to care about OUR rights... therefore a consciencable vampire would look more like a sociopathic human. That makes sense? *scratches head*

It's always interesting to explore alien mindsets. :D

[velvet_mace]

LOL. From their point of view tearing Darlene apart made perfect sense. George just doesn't understand why they'd be so upset with her yet. But actually, humans can be pretty damn viscious in the name of justice as well. The US of course has some standards, but go to large parts of the world people do horrific things to avenge "honor". And even in the US go back a century or two and you have whites committing what would be considered to be horrific crimes against blacks -- and feeling not only completely justified but actually believe they were doing the blacks a service. You really have to understand where a society puts their values before you can decide what they are doing is justified or criminal. It's absolutely astonishing how flexible the concept of basic morality is.

[drelfina]

Indeed. If you just look at various religious materials - slavery is condoned in the bible (Famous example!) and now currently is considered immoral. Having plenty of children was, while not moral per se, was considered a sign of gods' favours in Ancient China, and having no sons at all a sign of degenerate character. So on and so forth.

So it's always interesting to see the Vampiric morality - they have different rules and so on - which is how in some novels I've read about were-wolf society, fighting to death in certain rituals is considered fine but killing outside of such ritualistic fights a big no no. Or something.

So will you be elaborating on why precisely they were so angry/justified on tearing her apart? Or will it be a minor plot point? Or just one aspect of vampiric mind-set/society that you will be revealing bit by bit

[velvet_mace]

I'm no where near done with Jeffrey. Don't worry.

Next chapter helps to clear up why there was a problem.

[drelfina]

YAY! I can't WAIT.

*bounces*

Ever thought of doing werewolves? *just a curious question* Because I know that if you DID, you'd probably turn it all the right ways to hit almost all of my non-con/dub-con kinks. Mrrr. >3