baby steps...

Nov 06, 2008 01:23

So, Prop 2 was passed in California. I'm not one who gets too involved in US politics but I was very, very pleased to hear about this passing.

It's baby steps forward, but they are still forward.

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bella_demarco November 7 2008, 02:54:24 UTC
yes on prop 8 as well though, so cali is definitely taking tiny tiny steps.

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vegetus November 7 2008, 07:42:24 UTC
Sorry but the banning of veal crates, battery hen cages and sow stalls is a very different issue than gay marriage.

Whilst it is a disappointment that prop 8 got up, at least those who are directly affected by it can continue to fight for their own rights. The animals cannot speak for themselves and I would liken not being able to move or stretch my limbs for my entire life in a whole different level to not being able to get married. I suggest you stand on an A4 piece of paper for 10 minutes and not move off it. Then multiply that for your entire life. Then you might realise the utter hell that these feeling beings have to go through so people can eat them and their "products". Also it means that California will have better laws on animal welfare in farms than Australia.

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bella_demarco November 7 2008, 07:57:51 UTC
yes, it's different, i didn't say it was the same. there were a whole bunch of other amendments and measures that were passed/rejected in various states, and that was the only one that i can remember off the top of my head for CA.

i'm also not ignorant about where my food comes from, but thanks for the reminder.

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vegetus November 7 2008, 07:50:33 UTC
To give you some idea of what happens in Australia and what you pay for and personally support every time you eat a ham sandwich or a cake with egg in it...

http://www.animalsaustralia.org/lucy_speaks/
http://www.freebetty.com/cage_eggs.php
http://savebabe.com/

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bella_demarco November 7 2008, 08:00:17 UTC
thanks for the links specific to australia, i usually only see US-centric info unfortunately.

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