I suppose I would inquire one to one about his own take (Ms. Newkirk, at least, seemed quite unsympathetic from what I understand) regarding popular criticisms leveled at PeTA by other animal advocates, such as that of the many other anti-oppression activists that many of PeTA's campaigns are sexist, racist, fat-phobic, transphobic, homophobic, anti-semitic, imperialist, ableist, [sorry to be discursive, but I didn't want to list one or two and exclude others] or otherwise traffic in oppression and privilege; I would ask whether he does have some similar qualms and understand where this criticism is coming from and if so how he might plan lobby in his organization to perhaps alter the direction of or dial down the offensiveness of these campaigns. I would ask him how he feels about PeTA's (at least as an organization) general non-support of no-kill shelters and (their related actions) and their repudiation of the views Nathan Winograd and other advocates of no-kill shelters, along with objections by some animal rights advocates that PeTA has, for instance, ostensibly colluded with KFC and other organizations in praising their adoption of CAK and other methods of "humane slaughter" when apparently such methods ultimately generate more profit anyway and would, I'd hazard, eventually be adopted regardless--and what general sentiments PeTA's employees seem to hold regarding these issues. [I'd rather not debate these sentiments on this page with anyone; let me say I certaining respect the right of others here to hold their own opinions regarding these utilitarian versus rights matters and other issues.]
You know, apparently Friedrich is director of Vegan Outreach, which, when I reviewed and ordered their material a couple years ago, seemed more reasonable to me than PeTA, though some have criticized its campaign's welfarist tinge (which does not bother me as much as the CAK support above) and more amenable to some of the the concerns above. I would like to interrogate regarding whether this organization was founded to really "corner the market" of people who are turned off by PeTA's philosophy and certain tactics, which, while increasing the number of vegetarians and vegans in a perhaps less fraught matter, still rings a little duplicitous to me somehow, that this organization would too run campaigns that raise objections similar to PeTA's if only such were the type that would appeal to Vegan Outreach's target demographic. Or, instead if the organization was founded by Mr. Friedrich (and Matt Ball, I believe), at least in part, due to their own good-faith objections to certain aspects of PeTA.
Ever the skeptic, I personally also entertain some caveats with certain claims promulgated by PeTA and similar organizations regarding the health aspects of a vegan diet, but the matters above would take precedence for me if I were to hold a short discussion with Mr. Friedrich or someone in a similar position.
Anyway, these are just issues that most concern me in my current development as a vegan (have to provide full disclosure: beegan) and social justice advocate and that I would be most interested to solicit the opinions regarding which of such a prime mover in the overall animal advocacy movement. I have no idea whether these issues are ones that concern your brother; I understand they would only be appropriate to ask during or after debate, unless....I wonder how much Mr. Friedrich will really argue the topic of the debate, whether animals should have rights, or whether it will actually be an argument for improved welfare of farm and other animals and pushing of "humane" methods over cheaper modes of slaughter. In which case, your friend may want to briefly state a different view, a rights-based view, during the debate if given an opportunity to do. Thank you for reading....
Oh, thank you. When I Googled some sources listed him as co-director--that was a big mea culpa on my account; I should have searched the Vegan Outreach website before trusting secondary sources :/
After seeing press release for the book that featured praise by Ingrid Newkirk, I admit I totally jumped to conclusions and decided to blow off even considering reading the book until I had at least gone through my queue of other animal rights books. You make me want to take a second glance at it, check out its reviews on Amazon--thank you for the heads up.
You know, apparently Friedrich is director of Vegan Outreach, which, when I reviewed and ordered their material a couple years ago, seemed more reasonable to me than PeTA, though some have criticized its campaign's welfarist tinge (which does not bother me as much as the CAK support above) and more amenable to some of the the concerns above. I would like to interrogate regarding whether this organization was founded to really "corner the market" of people who are turned off by PeTA's philosophy and certain tactics, which, while increasing the number of vegetarians and vegans in a perhaps less fraught matter, still rings a little duplicitous to me somehow, that this organization would too run campaigns that raise objections similar to PeTA's if only such were the type that would appeal to Vegan Outreach's target demographic. Or, instead if the organization was founded by Mr. Friedrich (and Matt Ball, I believe), at least in part, due to their own good-faith objections to certain aspects of PeTA.
Ever the skeptic, I personally also entertain some caveats with certain claims promulgated by PeTA and similar organizations regarding the health aspects of a vegan diet, but the matters above would take precedence for me if I were to hold a short discussion with Mr. Friedrich or someone in a similar position.
Anyway, these are just issues that most concern me in my current development as a vegan (have to provide full disclosure: beegan) and social justice advocate and that I would be most interested to solicit the opinions regarding which of such a prime mover in the overall animal advocacy movement. I have no idea whether these issues are ones that concern your brother; I understand they would only be appropriate to ask during or after debate, unless....I wonder how much Mr. Friedrich will really argue the topic of the debate, whether animals should have rights, or whether it will actually be an argument for improved welfare of farm and other animals and pushing of "humane" methods over cheaper modes of slaughter. In which case, your friend may want to briefly state a different view, a rights-based view, during the debate if given an opportunity to do. Thank you for reading....
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After seeing press release for the book that featured praise by Ingrid Newkirk, I admit I totally jumped to conclusions and decided to blow off even considering reading the book until I had at least gone through my queue of other animal rights books. You make me want to take a second glance at it, check out its reviews on Amazon--thank you for the heads up.
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