QOTD: Is there ANY POINT in trying to change the mind of a person who doesn't necessarily want to educate themselves about veganism (and vegans as PEOPLE), and who just wants to explode on the whole human race based on what they believe is "right"?
I know oppositional rants get posted on here from time to time, but this one really takes the damn cake. This kid lived in the house I lived in over the summer, in Plattsburgh, NY. He has lived there his entire life. He is from an upper-middle-class background and spends most of his time doing work for anti-war organizations. He considers himself a die-hard liberal. He LOVED my cooking and ate at least 75% vegan over the summer as a result of living with me. He talked to me a number of times about eventually becoming vegan, and then he writes the absolute most incendiary garbage I've ever seen.
It includes such gems as this:
"[cows] have brains the size of peas, their emotions cannot be measured in terms that we'd understand at all, and without any other "knowledge" of any other kind of life outside of the one they live, how can cows or veal have a basis for comparison? To them it's not torture, it just is... and humans work on these filthy shit filled farms too... Of course, I've also heard Petans talk of genocide... for the whole human race... I've heard of them killing doctors trying to find cures to diseases using animals... I hope every Peta member dies from something that murdered doctor could've cured... I'd actually consider veganism if it wasn't for elitist organizations like PETA and being associated with snobby assholes like that... but fuck it, the whole fucking world hates me, so what difference does it make if all of you do too?"
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From: davoid
Date: Sep 26, 2008 1:26 AM
1st off, this article below, is stupid- it clearly illustrates how fucking stupid PETA and anyone who is a member of their insane organization is. Cow's DIE if they are not milked, and somehow, I doubt very much that these anorexic little attention-starved boobless vegan idiot-bitches would want to make their breasts look like "Mrs. Chokesondix" with 3" nipples as they engorge on beans, nuts and other vegan protien sources to supply their over-woked mammories with human milk that would then be processed and sold on a market... Most of them are spoiled brats from rich families who have a superiority complex which makes them think they're wholey within their right to dictate what other people should do... and that is called FASCISM YOU NAZI FUCKS!!! if you fucking fake hippies don't like fake fucking hippy ice cream made by the LEVER corporation then don't fucking eat it you dumb pig-fuckers! god damn it... seriously... JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP.. and go impress yourselves... ALSO, I DON'T FUCKING CARE ABOUT COWS... dumb fucks... ... fuck you snobby assholes! you wanna shove your beliefs in my face, condemn me for my fucking diet and try to lay a guilt trip on me? fuck YOU! I'd honor your silly little fashion statement, if you didn't shove it in my face, but no! The anorexic sickly looking attention seeking elitist fascists have to tell us all how to live... if your cow is a god then FUCK YOUR GOD! anyway, here's the story, sorry if I offended anyone... I know it's only cool if you offend me... it's just not fashionable or trendy or socially acceptable for me to say fuck you, yet, there it is! Oh, and if you're straight-edge, fuck you too... every straightedger I know is that way because they did drugs and fucked up their lives... and they're so egotistical that they think that if *they* who are so high and mighty fucked up *their* life, than everyone else who does drugs/drinks will too! Then comes the messianic, "I'll save you" complex... ya, shove it up your ass, thanx... You should've just keep on drinking and smoking your sorry ass to oblivion, you quit too soon! You were almost about to DIE... damn it, now I gotta listen to you moralize as you ruin my buzz! FUCK... and you wonder why I fucking hate these little despots? I'll get the liver disease, the cancer, the cholesterol build-up, and everything else associated with my bad diet... my life sucks enough as it is, I might as well enjoy it as much as possible, this IS it, after all... no afterlife, no retribution, no karma... we're all animals, animals eat animals... everything we do, no matter what, is natural... plastic is natural... we are not high and mighty, we are not special... the human race is STUPID, just like our animal counterparts... we are not ABOVE nature, we *are part of* nature - thus, anything we do, as natural creatures, IS NATURAL... Just because we can do something that other animals can't, like talk, walk and "think"- doesn't put us above animals that can lick their own genitals, digest grass, run 60MPH, eat raw uncooked meat without getting sick, glow in the dark, fly or any of the other amazing things that other animals can do that we can't... am I getting through? We have brains, we are individuals, we make our own choices... impeding upon that in any way is fascism and all fascism is bullshit!
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PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk
Group Says Move Would Help Humans, Cows
POSTED: 1:48 pm EDT September 23, 2008
UPDATED: 9:53 am EDT September 24, 2008
WATERBURY, Vt. -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals sent a letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, cofounders of Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc., urging them to replace cow's milk they use in their ice cream products with human breast milk, according to a statement recently released by a PETA spokeswoman.
"PETA's request comes in the wake of news reports that a Swiss restaurant owner will begin purchasing breast milk from nursing mothers and substituting breast milk for 75 percent of the cow's milk in the food he serves," the statement says.
PETA Urges Ben & Jerry's To Use Human Milk
PETA officials say a move to human breast milk would lessen the suffering of dairy cows and their babies on factory farms and benefit human health.
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"The fact that human adults consume huge quantities of dairy products made from milk that was meant for a baby cow just doesn't make sense," says PETA Executive Vice President Tracy Reiman. "Everyone knows that 'the breast is best,' so Ben & Jerry's could do consumers and cows a big favor by making the switch to breast milk.
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"We applaud PETA's novel approach to bringing attention to an issue, but we believe a mother's milk is best used for her child," said a spokesperson for Ben and Jerry's.
Read PETA's letter to Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield
September 23, 2008
Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, Cofounders
Ben & Jerry's Homemade Inc.
Dear Mr. Cohen and Mr.
Greenfield,
On behalf of PETA and our more than 2 million members and supporters, I'd like to bring your attention to an innovative new idea from Switzerland that would bring a unique twist to Ben and Jerry's.
Storchen restaurant is set to unveil a menu that includes soups, stews, and sauces made with at least 75 percent breast milk procured from human donors who are paid in exchange for their milk. If Ben and Jerry's replaced the cow's milk in its ice cream with breast milk, your customers-and cows-would reap the benefits.
[[Of course all the dairy cows in the world would swell-up and die from an over-filled utter, becuase they are specifically bred to do so... so once all the dairy cows mammory glands have exploded and the strain of bovine we know as dairy cows is extinct, ya, I guess the other remaining cows would be happy, I guess...]]
Using cow's milk for your ice cream is a hazard to your customer's health. Dairy products have been linked to juvenile diabetes, allergies, constipation, obesity, and prostate and ovarian cancer. The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it may play a role in anemia, allergies, and juvenile diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease-America's number one cause of death.
[[I believe Mr. Spock was refering to feeding dairy milk to INFANTS YOU DUMB FUCKS, infant baby humans need human milk, it IS bad to give an infant dairy milk, it's also bad to give them most of the food we eat, and what little food they can eat has to be mushed to pulp... secondly, I, as a halfway intelligent person, am well aware of the fact that lactose ain't too good for me, but neither is tap water, the air we breathe, plus all the junk-food, cigz, beer * pot I consume, so fuck it... 3rd! even if human milk was used, ANY ice cream is chock full of sugar (diabetes, obesity) and other shit... so... shut up morons!!]]
Animals will also benefit from the switch to breast milk. Like all mammals, cows only produce milk during and after pregnancy, so to be able to constantly milk them, cows are forcefully impregnated every nine months. After several years of living in filthy conditions and being forced to produce 10 times more milk than they would naturally, their exhausted bodies are turned into hamburgers or ground up for soup.
And of course, the veal industry could not survive without the dairy industry. Because male calves can't produce milk, dairy farmers take them from their mothers immediately after birth and sell them to veal farms, where they endure 14 to17 weeks of torment chained inside a crate so small that they can't even turn around.
[[they have brains the size of peas, their emotions cannot be measured in terms that we'd understand at all, and without any other "knowledge" of any other kind of life outside of the one they live, how can cows or veal have a basis for comparison? To them it's not torture, it just is... and humans work on these filthy shit filled farms too... Of course, I've also heard Petans talk of genocide... for the whole human race... I've heard of them killing doctors trying to find cures to diseases using animals... I hope every Peta member dies from something that murdered doctor could've cured... I'd actually consider veganism if it wasn't for elitist organizations like PETA and being associated with snobby assholes like that... but fuck it, the whole fucking world hates me, so what difference does it make if all of you do too?]]
The breast is best! Won't you give cows and their babies a break and our health a boost by switching from cow's milk to breast milk in Ben and Jerry's ice cream? Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
Tracy Reiman
Executive Vice President
[I can only hope that the Lever Corporation wrote back with the letters 'H' and 'A' repeated to the bottom of the page... what a joke... and they're *serious*?! HA!]
I've already sent a very basic response detailing where he's wrong in that giant blob of fail, but I really don't know what to say. This is the biggest pile of garbage I've ever seen this kid turn out, which is saying something...
I'm starting a 'fail' tag. There isn't one already (though 'flounce' is there, which makes me happy).