Raven About Intelligence

[vgnwtch]

Clever raven proves that it's no birdbrain

Logic and puzzle-solving come naturally to highly intelligent scavenger, claim biologists

by Robin McKie, science editor
Sunday April 29, 2007
The Observer

Scientists have revealed an

Comments

[willfishguy]

I find this all rather stupid and useless considering the raven has been venerated for thousands of years for it's profound intelligence by practically every single mystic faith system (except those derived from middle eastern origins) the world has ever had. Plus it's use to describe intelligence in hundreds of age old fables, children stories, poems and hunters lore. In short, the raven has always been associated with the human mind. So I don't know why these scientists are surprised in their findings

[vgnwtch]

I find it exceptionally useful

[willfishguy]

Call me dull, but I only understand the last sentence.

[savagefreedom]

You're a minority bud, the problem being that most people are so conditioned by human elitism to "see not" and "hear not" in terms of century or even millennia-old observable intelligent behavior in other animals. I agree that the study did not reveal anything that isn't already observable, but a lot of people do not see it until it's pointed out to them. Note that, as you use the words "mystic" and "fable," to point out the age-old existence of this knowledge, you are also adding to a general pool of undue ignorance, because many people do not believe in mysticism or fables, especially any mysticism or fables outside of their own faith system if they have one. After all, as children we're read Aesop's fables under the condition that we understand what a fable is and how it differs from "real life." Even if it's true-to-life, we are most often prone to disbelief when the appearance of fable-like qualities or the term itself is used.

[willfishguy]

Aesop's wisdom is for children of all ages.