Time to think. So that we can act.

[butsu]

I suggest creating a complex and very long list (table or database) which will include as many as possible names of 'bad' companies (like P&G, Nestle, etc), their or independent brands and substances (like lecithin or rennet

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[wonderwiccan]

What are reasons that a company would be considered "bad"? Also, I think it would be a good idea, if you are going to make this list, to also make a list of "good" companies. No sense saying what we should avoid but not who we should encourage, right?

[butsu]

absolutely

but making the bad ones and the good ones are two different, even independent, tasks

@What are reasons that a company would be considered "bad"?@ please try to answer your question yourself. I asked for suggestions and help. and if everyone plays a wisemman asking life-important question, the whole thing shall become crap...

we should start with a draft. discussing a couple of brands and companies. look, we can always remove a name form the list - no problem.

I still hope there's some cooperation out there

[wonderwiccan]

Yes, making two lists would be two different tasks. My point is that by only making the "bad" list, people might get discouraged. It's always good to find something positive to work on as well as identifying the negative.

I could answer the question myself, but I asked you because I wanted to know what your opinion was. If you want cooperation on your project, doesn't it make sense that we all know what it is exactly that you are trying to do?

[butsu]

to be brief... look once again at the starter, there are examples of bad cmps. if you think they are actually good ones, well that's hell of a problem

[wonderwiccan]

You listed P&G and Nestle, but you didn't say why you consider them to be "bad". (I am unfamiliar with them, from an ethical pov.)

I am not trying to be insulting or confrontational with you. If I'm coming across that way, then I apologize. Please stop being rude to me. I don't appreciate it.

[butsu]

:) come on! I am not rude! at all! not in my posts and not in me life!

anyway, that's really strange that you are not familiar with the state of things around Procter and Gamble and Nestle.
As far as I know, they test on, vivisect and treat animals cruelly...

[im_sassy]

that was unnecessarily rude. i'm sure the poster has his/her own concept of what makes a company "bad." she was asking for yours, and if you want help, shouldn't you be helpful and responsive as well?

[butsu]

I didn't mean anything rude.
I want to be responsive and open to ideas and criticism, for that's the only way to do such a colossal job...