Vegans shouldn't have sex with meat eaters?

[edgiko]

There's a group in New Zealand vegans shunning vegans who have relations with meat eaters.

Do you think this is taking Veganism to an extreme?

I think it does. You can't be 100% vegan. It's only something you try to achieve, but so many everyday products we use are not vegan. I'm sure we're familiar with cars and junk

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Food Writers

[theevilchemist]

We actually don't need animals to be healthy individuals.

There are plenty of vegan parents and nutritional journals that say otherwise. Head over to one of those university libraries around you area, log into google scholar and type in "vegan nutrition" and you'll find thousands of articles discussing every facet of vegan nutrition, both the benefits and the risks. [1] Don't put much faith in food writers.

One thing I have learned about food books: "Everyone can be a food writer." I've read all sorts of garbage books filled with pseudo-science to the point of cult like dogma. Chefs, doctors, PhD's in areas other than nutrition, holistic healers, spiritual leaders, you name it, anyone can be a food writer, including an "entrepenuer" and speech writer with no formal background in human nutrition, that misleads people by saying "lard is mostly unsaturated", but doesn't say it is 39-47% saturated. The big difference in wording demonstrates an inherent bias to her writing.

The trend I see in most books is that the person of course writes about their diet and not an overall review of the health benefits and risks of every diet.

The big flaw in nearly all of these books is that they can't discern between natural deficiencies inherent in food and those created by technology. We are so far away from our biology that food has to be looked at in terms of "food function" wrt to it's production.

For example, her business with DHA. Why is modern mother's milk deficient with DHA? It's not because of lack of fish, it's because of this overwhelming overabundance of omega-6 fatty acids from vegetable oil, in modern diest, omnivores and herbivores alike. Both the omega-6 and omega-3 use the same elongase enzymes, Thus, when you eat one form, you decrease the production of the other. Corn fed cows have miniscule amounts of DHA compared to the leaner grass fed cows, which btw, if you look at the green plants, you'll find they have a nice even ratio of Omega-3 to Omega-6.

There are plenty of clinical studies concerning DHA production in people who get enough ALA.

Food production in industrial nations is tailored to omnivores and thus nutritional deficiencies inherent in technologically manipulated food is compensated for through supplementation, like thiamine in bread, Vit-D in milk, folic acid, etc...

This where vegans are at an extreme disadvantage. Young vegans need to know where to find credible information on good nutrition in a modern omnivore world.

The fact that Vitamin A deficiency even exists is beyond me, when all ya gotta do is eat a few leaves here and there.

jv

[1] This is how I ended up being a vegan btw. I was a meat eating jock most of my life until I got to grad school and started fighting with all these plant heads. Sitting in the science library for days on end looking to strengthen my argument, I had to come to the inevitable conclusion that the plant people were right.