Hi, everyone. :) It's been a long while, I know---the summer was and the semester has been really busy and, like ladyadeone, I've been on tumblr more recently, which has it's upsides and it's downsides
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(Okay, thanks. ;)) Crusade is getting more intriguing (ooh, how interesting! I shall have to keep an eye out for that then), and Freezer Burn mostly grabbed me when Natasha turned/was framed as traitor and Clint went down for it too. ;)) I'm not sure if that's good or not. ;)) A lot of it seems more based on the comics than the movies, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, except maybe they tend to be nobler in the movies? Some of it's kind of hard to say. Tony goes pretty destructive in IM2 when his reactor (keeping shrapnel from entering his heart) is rapidly poisoning him, but he really gets things more together and even his bad times in IM3 aren't as bad. Bruce also seemed to have an awful lot of breakouts, especially considering how well he was doing before the Avengers, but maybe it is more like that? Thor seemed a bit more arrogant, but I suppose he could've relapsed too, even though he doesn't in Thor 2, and his worst moment in Avengers was due to the Tesseract... Steve was pretty similar as far as I could tell, which isn't much (I loved him figuring out all the pop culture references, even though there were times I didn't understand them myself, and the LotR one especially was funny and the Blues Brothers one amused me more than it probably should've...). Natasha seemed a bit more on edge and maybe bitter, or maybe just cynical, less of a person who really is trying to wipe ledger clean. Clint also seemed more cynical and broken, but then again we haven't seen very much of him in the movies. I did love how funny the two of them were at times, and that they still did have a strong bond. Yeah, poor Pepper! Though in the movies it usually hasn't been that bad. I don't think this story mentioned it, but in IM2, Tony resigns and makes Pepper the CEO of Stark Industries. Which means she still has to put up with his tantrums and low spots, but the damage control has less to do with the company. So, yeah, it still stinks a lot, but it gets better and Tony really does value her more and tries to not make her life too difficult (with varying degrees of success). As for unwinding, good question...I don't know. Maybe she takes the occasional weekend and sets Tony up with his toys in the lab and disappears off-grid? ;)) Also, while we're on the topic of female side characters, Peggy was great and I loved Miranda. ;)) I found her and Steve's food discussions and texts rather amusing. I also realised that the author knows FAR more about food than I do, because half the time I had no idea what they were talking about, and half of the remaining time it didn't sound appetizing at all. :P (Also, Steve, Clint, and Natasha's dinners out were always fun.) I guess, in short, I found it an interesting read, but there were just enough things from things from the comics that kind of rub opposite to the movies that made me not love it wholeheartedly. Maybe too it's that I don't mind characters broken and bent and pushed down low, but they have to get back up and stay up with some level of success at some point, and they didn't seem to be doing that so much... I don't know. Maybe it's the nobility of the soul, and a lack of fear of hard work, to very terribly paraphrase Rose in SotB. :P ;)) I'm tired, so this probably isn't making sense anymore. XD )
"nobler in the movies" is not something one hears very often--though it is an intriguing recommendation. ;)) (I remember the Blues Brothers one, even though it's a reference that totally passed me by. Some things are still funny out of context. ;)) ) That seems like it'd be a bit of a break, then, though I didn't necessarily get the feel that she enjoys what she does which would make it more of a perk than a responsibility. Oh good! :D I liked them both as well, especially since Miranda's thread seems to be a 'I've had an adventure, now what?' story you don't see too often... The food was interesting, wasn't it? I'm a hotdish person myself, so it was pretty much all novelty food. ;)) I agree with the quote. But I also thought that for having no better guiding light than Steve's principles they did a decent job at picking themselves up and heading in the right direction.
No, it's not. But I'm pretty sure that's what Diana Wynne Jones said about the movie of HMC, so it can happen. ;)) As opposed to LotR and CoN and a lot of other things where characters are not nobilized, which is what you're probably thinking of. (Yeah. It was one of those things my parents remembered differently---and I think they added stuff back in :P---and it was really weird, but some of it was kind of funny, inbetween skipping and muting; it's kind of one of those things that is referenced a lot in pop culture, so it was kind of nice to know more. Then again, you don't really need to know more than that Carrie Fisher plays a crazy character who's trying to kill the brother who just got out of jail. ;)) ) True. But Pepper is really good at her job, so I think there's a certain amount of satisfaction that comes from that (and it's less morally reprehensible than the satisfaction of a job well done that a sniper would feel, or at least [Riza] Hawkeye would); plus, you can throw your weight around some, and take down scheming scumbag business people. ;)) But if it helps at all, she was very flattered and happy (if rather surprised) when Tony made her CEO, and was also happy to be able to kick Tony out of the office when he was bothering her. ;)) :D I liked Miranda's thread for that reason too; she was a very ordinary person who did something rather remarkable, but then had to come back to earth and do the mundane with very little recognition or credit. Yes, the food was interesting. Mmhmm, I'm too much of a comfort food person, and I don't like spice or seafood, so... ;)) :) True. They did do a fairly good job at that, at least on-the-job. I don't know; maybe I felt like personal conviction and growth was missing? What do you think? Am I just spoiled by having read other stories where people are broken, but they try more? Or at least seem to make progress, or don't backslide so much? Then again, that's human nature... :P ;))
I'm not sure if that's good or not. ;)) A lot of it seems more based on the comics than the movies, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, except maybe they tend to be nobler in the movies? Some of it's kind of hard to say. Tony goes pretty destructive in IM2 when his reactor (keeping shrapnel from entering his heart) is rapidly poisoning him, but he really gets things more together and even his bad times in IM3 aren't as bad. Bruce also seemed to have an awful lot of breakouts, especially considering how well he was doing before the Avengers, but maybe it is more like that? Thor seemed a bit more arrogant, but I suppose he could've relapsed too, even though he doesn't in Thor 2, and his worst moment in Avengers was due to the Tesseract... Steve was pretty similar as far as I could tell, which isn't much (I loved him figuring out all the pop culture references, even though there were times I didn't understand them myself, and the LotR one especially was funny and the Blues Brothers one amused me more than it probably should've...). Natasha seemed a bit more on edge and maybe bitter, or maybe just cynical, less of a person who really is trying to wipe ledger clean. Clint also seemed more cynical and broken, but then again we haven't seen very much of him in the movies. I did love how funny the two of them were at times, and that they still did have a strong bond.
Yeah, poor Pepper! Though in the movies it usually hasn't been that bad. I don't think this story mentioned it, but in IM2, Tony resigns and makes Pepper the CEO of Stark Industries. Which means she still has to put up with his tantrums and low spots, but the damage control has less to do with the company. So, yeah, it still stinks a lot, but it gets better and Tony really does value her more and tries to not make her life too difficult (with varying degrees of success). As for unwinding, good question...I don't know. Maybe she takes the occasional weekend and sets Tony up with his toys in the lab and disappears off-grid? ;))
Also, while we're on the topic of female side characters, Peggy was great and I loved Miranda. ;)) I found her and Steve's food discussions and texts rather amusing. I also realised that the author knows FAR more about food than I do, because half the time I had no idea what they were talking about, and half of the remaining time it didn't sound appetizing at all. :P (Also, Steve, Clint, and Natasha's dinners out were always fun.)
I guess, in short, I found it an interesting read, but there were just enough things from things from the comics that kind of rub opposite to the movies that made me not love it wholeheartedly. Maybe too it's that I don't mind characters broken and bent and pushed down low, but they have to get back up and stay up with some level of success at some point, and they didn't seem to be doing that so much... I don't know. Maybe it's the nobility of the soul, and a lack of fear of hard work, to very terribly paraphrase Rose in SotB. :P ;)) I'm tired, so this probably isn't making sense anymore. XD )
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That seems like it'd be a bit of a break, then, though I didn't necessarily get the feel that she enjoys what she does which would make it more of a perk than a responsibility.
Oh good! :D I liked them both as well, especially since Miranda's thread seems to be a 'I've had an adventure, now what?' story you don't see too often... The food was interesting, wasn't it? I'm a hotdish person myself, so it was pretty much all novelty food. ;))
I agree with the quote. But I also thought that for having no better guiding light than Steve's principles they did a decent job at picking themselves up and heading in the right direction.
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True. But Pepper is really good at her job, so I think there's a certain amount of satisfaction that comes from that (and it's less morally reprehensible than the satisfaction of a job well done that a sniper would feel, or at least [Riza] Hawkeye would); plus, you can throw your weight around some, and take down scheming scumbag business people. ;)) But if it helps at all, she was very flattered and happy (if rather surprised) when Tony made her CEO, and was also happy to be able to kick Tony out of the office when he was bothering her. ;))
:D I liked Miranda's thread for that reason too; she was a very ordinary person who did something rather remarkable, but then had to come back to earth and do the mundane with very little recognition or credit. Yes, the food was interesting. Mmhmm, I'm too much of a comfort food person, and I don't like spice or seafood, so... ;))
:) True. They did do a fairly good job at that, at least on-the-job. I don't know; maybe I felt like personal conviction and growth was missing? What do you think? Am I just spoiled by having read other stories where people are broken, but they try more? Or at least seem to make progress, or don't backslide so much? Then again, that's human nature... :P ;))
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