Ah and you guys probably know about this, but in case you don't, here are some more spoilers for upcoming episodes of SEED DESTINY:
Fresh from Gunota:
New figure listings from AmiAmi.
MSiA Blaze Zaku Phantom New Color Ver. (tentative name) - The personal color model piloted by Dearka of the Joule Team. Will appear in the program's second half. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
XDDDDDDDD Heh. So Dearka's coming back in the 2nd half, huh? Its been a while, Dearka. I wonder if he'll meet up with Milliaria again? (I also wonder why she dumped him...probably because they were disagreeing over his re-enlistment in ZAFT?)
MSiA Gaia Gundam New Color Ver. (tentative name) - An MS that appears in the program's second half piloted by Archangel member Waltfeld. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
Does this mean the Golden Murasame will be piloted by Mwu/Neo, by chance?
MSiA Strike Rouge Destiny Ver. (tentative name) - Destiny version with Cagalli's emblem on the shoulder and the modified Aile Striker Pack. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
YAY!!! So they really ARE going to let Cagalli use the IWSP Pack!!! So does this mean Cagalli gets to kick ass in mobile suiting fighting?! I mean, of course, she won't be as good as Athrun or Kira, and they won't focus on her as much, but maybe this means she'll actually get to do something unexpectedly cool? Like suddenly show up in the middle of a battle and save Athrun or Andy or someone when they're in a crisis?! *dances crazily at the prospect*
Suddenly things are looking up again, just a bit XDDDDD
Ah yes and in case you didn't know, the 4th ED is apparently by See-Saw, and its called Kimi wa Boku ni Niteiru.
I'm not so thrilled with the thought of her using the IWSP pack - I want a new gundam for her, dammit. But it doesn't necessarily mean that she'll be out again, maybe that model was more to coincide with the Strike Rouge that's already been shown, unlike Dearka and Andy's new models.
Maybe this means more Dearka screen time? I like the guy, he was kinda snobby, insensitive and jerkish, now he just seems cool in a way Athrun and Kira never were. Dearka is a dynamic character. But about Andy's ms, are they really going to make another version of Gaia or is that the ms Athrun steals to hightail it out of Zaft and Andy gets a new paintjob for it?
About those old polls, they seem fair. Like Lacus is cuter than Cagalli but Cagalli's hotter because she doesn't have Lacus' Virgin Mary vibe. And Kira being the gloomiest character cracks me up - maybe if they asked that now Athrun would win. What's going on that Lacus is dominating the polls now? Is it because she's an old cast member who hasn't done anything to piss anyone off? Or are the fans suddenly remembering the way she just magically gets everything right and they prefer perfect goddess types over realism?
But if you asked me, and my answers cover both GS and GSD, the hottest woman would be Mrs. Joule, sexiest guy would be Gil, handsomest guy would be Mwu, cutest and most adorable is my baby Stellar, prettiest female would be Lunamaria when she doesn't have the worshipful sheep expression, most intriguing is Rey, best overall character is Cagalli, wangstiest would be Shinn, funniest is Jona, wisest is Lacus since she's the only one with all the answers and the concrete plans - other than Gil but she's going to show him up too.
Too bad, I thought the new eye catch thing was for sure. But did they change the eye catch characters midway in GS, because I only got the cartoon network GS with no eye catch at all, so I don't know.
Have you heard this saying, "Don't go for a girl whose father calls her 'princess.' She probably thinks she is." XD Anyway, I don't think Cagalli's called 'princess' simply because Lord Uzumi wanted her called that, for starters, she hates being called 'princess' and Lord Uzumi wanted her to stop acting like such a brat, I doubt he was the kind of parent who'd encourage her to feel superior. And I doubt the other Orb nobles would have stood for her being called that on Uzumi's whim when they'd want to use the title (or the male equivalent) themselves. I think this is going to be one of the mysteries of the CE universe, unless some nice magazine article will explain it, like they explained the mystery of Malchio's mansion in Orb - it was actually Cagalli's.
I'm not so thrilled with the thought of her using the IWSP pack - I want a new gundam for her, dammit.
Yeah I wanted her to get a new Gundam too but I'm resigned to the fact she'll have to stick with Strike Rouge =/. Females don't get cool new Gundams to play with like males do, remember? And it seems almost custom-made specifically for her to pilot, and no one else. And Strike Rouge isn't as cool as, say, the Gaia Gundam (which is actually my favorite Gundam, with Murasame coming to a close 2nd), but I really like the lion emblem on her shoulder XD
Maybe this means more Dearka screen time? I like the guy, he was kinda snobby, insensitive and jerkish, now he just seems cool in a way Athrun and Kira never were. Dearka is a dynamic character.
=))))) He is. We've went over this before, but almost all of the blondes are dynamic, actually. In fact, the only people I really liked at the start of SEED were Mwu, Rau, and Cagalli. I kinda liked Yzak and Natarle, too, but I was never crazy over them. And I liked Mwu and Rau even more than Athrun, who I wasn't crazy over at the beginning of SEED (although I've always liked Athrun better than Kira).
Mwu was easygoing, friendly, just plain cool, and just so damn witty, and yet, for all his joking mannerisms, he clearly took his job as a soldier seriously and he was an intelligent person. And he was a real-life psychic! What kind of girl wouldn't want Mwu? <3 Rau was eccentric, but he was different and he had all these sides to him. He was quiet and even rather nice one minute and the next he was a raving nut =). Kind of like Stellar <3. And Cagalli may have been naive, headstrong, tempermental, loud-mouthed, and at times cocky, but she was just so amusing and interesting, and I enjoyed her interaction with other characters. And she was obviously a sincere and empathetic person. I really loved it whenever she hugged - no, mowed over - Kira. The look on Kira's face was priceless XDDD
For me, Mwu and Cagalli were refreshing changes of characters for me because they didn't angst. Now, I like angst, but it gets to be overbearing. Cagalli had her problems, had strong emotions, and didn't make the best decisions, but she didn't angst and whine over them like Kira did (I probably would've liked Kira a whole lot better if he wasn't such a whiny, unstable emotional mess). And Mwu was a funny and lighthearted guy, and I liked him for that.
about Andy's ms, are they really going to make another version of Gaia or is that the ms Athrun steals to hightail it out of Zaft and Andy gets a new paintjob for it?
Not sure. But the scenario you brought up sounds very plausible.
What's going on that Lacus is dominating the polls now? Is it because she's an old cast member who hasn't done anything to piss anyone off?
Yep, Lacus is probably topping the polls right now in magazines like Animedia and Animage because her character hasn't been ripped apart like Athrun's or Cagalli's. The same goes for Kira. In a recent issue of Animedia, I've seen Kira's and Stellar's rankings go up and Athrun's and Cagalli's rankings go down (Kira and Stellar placed maybe 4th and 5th place, respectively, and Athrun and Cagalli tied at 8th).
But as for the Newtype polls, I think mostly fanboys vote in that polls, so Lacus was always going to place first in those polls. (And Lunamaria's going to come a close 2nd.)
However, I've seen a poll in one magazine where Lacus placed 15th, as opposed to Stellar and Cagalli, who placed maybe 8th and 9th. And I've heard, that while the fanboys' favorites are Lacus and Lunamaria, the fangirls (the ones who draw doujinshi, fanart, write fan novels, and are really into the fandom) favor Stellar and Cagalli.
cutest and most adorable is my baby Stellar
<3333 She's *definitely* the cutest. She's like this adorable lost little kitty. And don't you just love her image song, Shinkai no Kodoku?
But did they change the eye catch characters midway in GS, because I only got the cartoon network GS with no eye catch at all, so I don't know.
They did change the eyecatch midway into GS. First it was an Athrun and Lacus eyecatch where Athrun was blowing bubbles and Lacus was spinning around and putting her arms up to the sky. The second eyecatch was the same, except Kira replaced Athrun.
Hey you watched the dub on Cartoon Network? I'm curious: how was it?
Good points about the princess thing. Its a mystery, among other things: like how in the heck did Andy/Kira/Mwu survive when their Gundams got decimated. For Kira, I think they explained it in the SEED manga (Kira ejected literally the last second and landed on the beach, where Malchio and Lacus found him). But Andy and Mwu remain mysteries. And what I really want to know is: How the hell could Shinn not recognize Lacus when he met her and Kira? I know he lived on ORB for half his life, but wouldn't he have known about her?
ah yes and I'd like to ask you two questions, if you don't mind answering them, slacker (you answer this too, djablesse! *poke* please? XD):
1. In a battle, who would win: Lunamaria in Zaku Warrior, or Cagalli in Strike Rouge, with the IWSP Pack?
2. Do you think the writers focused too much on AsuCaga in SEED?
For me, a battle between Lunamaria and Cagalli would be very close, and I'm not really sure who would win. Lunamaria's a Coordinator, and she's an elite red, but then, for a rookie and a Natural, Cagalli did rather well when she shot down 4 (?) mobile suits in the battle in Ep 49. The only problem with Lunamaria's and Cagalli's piloting skills is that they both seem to get a little reckless or distracted. I don't know a lot about either Zaku Warrior or Strike Rouge. Do you know which one has the better set of weaponry?
As for whether or not the writers focused too much on AsuCaga, I don't think so but feel free to argue a case against this.
And not that this matters, but for me:
the hottest female would be Lunamaria (as much as I don't want to admit it), the most handsome out of the males (not just the teenage males XD) would be Mwu, the sexiest male would be Rey, the prettiest female (when I'm not being biased XD) would be Lacus, the best overall character would be Cagalli, the most heroic character would be Cagalli, the cutest female would be Stellar, the cutest male would be Shinn (when he's not being a bastard), the angstiest character would be Athrun, the coolest character would be Athrun (when he's not being *too* angsty or being a prick), the wisest character would be Lacus, the funniest character would be Jona, the most intriguing character would be Rau, and the strongest character would be Kira
Athrun was the first in the eye catch with Lacus? Hearing that, I think the eye catch is all about Lacus and whoever guy she's supposed to be with at the moment. But I'd love it if the next were asucaga.
Hey you watched the dub on Cartoon Network? I'm curious: how was it?
Since it was the only thing I had, it wasn't too bad. Cagalli sounded girlier, but not as teensy girly like Lacus and Fllay, who sounded like a chipmunk. But I like the Japanese voices better, maybe because I find dubs in general to be weird. My sister was so surprised to hear Naomi Shindou though, she didn't realize Cagalli's voice was that low, but I like it. Cagalli reminds me of an enthusiastic, energetic puppy and Naomi Shindou brought that out. But I liked her english voice too.
How the hell could Shinn not recognize Lacus when he met her and Kira?
I can buy that one. When Kira brought first brought Lacus to the AA in GS, nobody knew who she was. I think she's famous in the PLANTS and in the Zaft bases who have regular contact with the PLANTS but not with the rest of earth. Shinn lived in Orb, and when he went to the PLANTS, Lacus had 'retired' to live with Kira and his mother. They missed each other.
1. In a battle, who would win: Lunamaria in Zaku Warrior, or Cagalli in Strike Rouge, with the IWSP Pack?
Aww, shucks. I hate to see it, but right now I'd give the edge to Lunamaria, who even though she's the suckiest on the Minerva, she can shoot down nameless grunts. Cagalli had to be rescued at the end of GS even in seed mode, even though I understand it was because that was how to show Yzak being on their side - and of course he had to rescue the girl. *pukes* But the thing is, Lunamaria had more training than Cagalli. If they gave Cagalli the same amount of training, used her seed the way Athrun, Kira and Shinn have tapped it, and add the plot factor of her being Kira's twin and all, she'd win. Besides, I'd like to see a non-drugged natural win over a coordinator for once. And she actually dodged Shinn when, correct me if I'm wrong since I can't remember this exactly, he was in seed mode and she wasn't and she was upset. How many could dodge Shinn in seed mode while they're crying?
I don't know what weapons their ms have. Those things confuse me. I only recently confessed this to djablesse, but I might as well tell you too: I can't even tell the Strike, Freedom and Impulse apart. =)
And she actually dodged Shinn when, correct me if I'm wrong since I can't remember this exactly, he was in seed mode and she wasn't and she was upset. How many could dodge Shinn in seed mode while they're crying?
No, you're correct =). And contrary to what most fans think, Cagalli really isn't a bad pilot at all -she can get easily distracted, but she has skills. Like you said, its just that she's just not trained to be in combat everyday like Lunamaria and people tend to overlook the fact she can dodge a SEED Mode Shinn and are quick to condemn her as a sucky pilot because 1) they're biased and hate her guts and 2)all they see is a crying, whiny dike.
That said, I wonder how people thought of Kira when he was being a whiny crybaby back in SEED? I wasn't around when SEED actually was airing, so I don't know what their reactions were then. Now, I don't hate Kira, but I just love poking fun at how he was in SEED XD
I don't know what weapons their ms have. Those things confuse me. I only recently confessed this to djablesse, but I might as well tell you too: I can't even tell the Strike, Freedom and Impulse apart. =)
Haha, me too *is ashamed* XDDD Strike, Freedom, and Impulse all have a similar color theme. I can only tell the difference when Impulse does that Legos-like transformation thing =PP
2. Do you think the writers focused too much on AsuCaga in SEED?
Yes and no. It's weird, but let me try to explain. It's no in that their problems were actually pretty realistic and should have been addressed. Even if there was no war, they'd still have had to deal with the fact that Cagalli is the princess of Orb. Even if Athrun's father was chairman of Zaft, he's still a commoner. It's different. Kind of like how Chelsea Clinton can marry anyone she likes yet Prince William's bride is going to have to go through stringent scrutiny. And the natural-coordinator problem was very important also, and was one of the things that did them in. But I think if Cagalli married Athrun, she'd end up having the support of the coordinators who want to reconcile with the naturals and she'd finally be more honest as the Orb representative (in a way, she was hiding something from them). This way Orb can decide for itself which way it wants to go - Cagalli marrying Jona would have forced the entire country down the pro-natural path. But I'm digressing again.
Yes in the sense that the other element, the harem, was completely unnecessary - it was a waste of time that made everyone involved in it look stupid and it was pointless because it's not like it went anywhere. Meanwhile the asucaga fans like me had heart attacks every Saturday night wondering whether Athrun would fall for someone else and non-asucaga fans were brought into the fray with the who-should-be-with-the-idiot arguments (which now that I think of it, are kinda pointless since it's not like Athrun even wanted a choice). That's where it became too much.
I was debating as to whether Lunamaria was the hottest, since she's got the short skirt and thigh-high combination and all. But in the end, I decided against it because she just seems too green to be really hot. Mrs. Joule on the other hand didn't need a short skirt to be hot, so she won. And Rey lost the hottest guy position with me because of the blush and the hug. Gil won that because while I'd much rather marry Mwu, I'd have an affair with Gil first. XD Yeah, most heroic would be Cagalli, because while so many can kill people in an ms, not very many would be willing to sacrifice their happiness for their country. I wish more people could understand that. Athrun's suicidal runs, while heroic on the outside, was actually escapism (and they say Cagalli's stupid when she actually understood that one).
I understand where you're coming from, and I agree completely. I was just wondering if you thought there was too much focus on them in SEED, not SEED Destiny ^_^ (because there's no disputing there was too much focus in THAT series - ugh, stupid harem).
*gasp* Awww you'd have an affair with Gil first?! Why, slacker, why?! How dare you choose the man with the long, icky green hair and the irritatingly mystical air over smooth, suave, handsome, cute, cool, and funny blonde-haired Mwu!!!
I was just wondering if you thought there was too much focus on them in SEED, not SEED Destiny
Oh, sorry, didn't read that part properly. Nope, if you think about it, asucaga were apart for 3/4s of GS. It's just that their interactions were more discussion worthy than Kira and Lacus, who had nice, sedate, boring conversations that weren't worth analyzing. To me, anyway.
Gil does not have icky green hair, he has black hair and he might be a little vampirish in skin but I've always had a thing for the quietly smart and manipulative, somewhat shady types, though in the end a sense of humor wins out.
Amen. So glad he's got the mask off. But yeah, Mwu is cool and funny, even when he's all brainwashed. And he's good with kids! In GS it was Kira and to an extent, Cagalli, in GSD it was Stellar.
He was quiet and even rather nice one minute and the next he was a raving nut
I must be a nut too because I thought Rau made the most sense in the end. If people want to annihilate each other, let them. I'd have just rounded up the people who don't want war and want to live in harmony in ships and sent them back to earth when everyone else was dead.
And I've heard, that while the fanboys' favorites are Lacus and Lunamaria, the fangirls (the ones who draw doujinshi, fanart, write fan novels, and are really into the fandom) favor Stellar and Cagalli.
Why am I so surprised? Lacus and Lunamaria are the masculine dream. Lacus is pretty and quiet and girly, she's strong but not in such a way that men are threatened by her, and she's got this caring mother vibe going. Lacus is the girl guys want to marry. Lunamaria is the girl they want to date - pretty, wears short skirts, and not particularly concerned about anything else except them.
Meanwhile, girls can identify with Cagalli's awkwardness, and they have more sympathy for Stellar who just reminds them of their three year old nieces... oh wait, that's just me. Besides, these two have more meat to their characters, Cagalli more than Stellar, but Stellar was just so cute. RIP psycho baby! *sob*
I must be a nut too because I thought Rau made the most sense in the end. If people want to annihilate each other, let them. I'd have just rounded up the people who don't want war and want to live in harmony in ships and sent them back to earth when everyone else was dead.
I thought he made the most sense too, despite the fact he was a raving nut. And I felt sorry for him when he was killed by Kira at the end of SEED - poor guy. The CE universe needs more intelligent people like you, Rau! But no, we get smartasses like Djbril ;____; Speaking of Djbril, what's with him and his cat? He seems like he's into bestiality or something.
Ah yes I have two more questions to add to the other two questions I asked you in the comment above (if you don't mind answering, cause I know my inquiring and questioning can get overbearing to a point it gets irritating XD):
Whose death do you think was the most heroic/sad?
Personally, Natarle's death made the most impact on me. She got shot like a fricking million times trying to save AA from Azrael, but no one was there to see that. She died without anyone knowing how cool she turned out to be. Although Fllay's death came a close second for me.
And what was the most emotional moment in SEED or SEED Destiny for you?
For me, I don't know why, but the most emotional moment in SEED for me was when Sai and Kira reunited. I don't particularly like Sai or Kira, and I don't really know why, but their meeting in ep 36 touched me, more than any other scene that I can think of right now.
Some people just love their pets. =) Besides, at least he likes something other than himself.
Whose death do you think was the most heroic/sad?
Saddest = Fllay's. All the more because I wasn't expecting it to be sad, I thought I'd cheer but in the end I felt so sorry for both Kira and Fllay.
Heroic = Mwu's. What he did was completely noble and reckless. The problem with Natarle was that it didn't have to be like that, had she not been so unbending previously.
And what was the most emotional moment in SEED or SEED Destiny for you?
The moment I saw the pre-GSD speculation that had asucaga breaking up, Cagalli dying and Athrun getting a new girlfriend. Not kidding. XD
Fresh from Gunota:
New figure listings from AmiAmi.
MSiA Blaze Zaku Phantom New Color Ver. (tentative name) - The personal color model piloted by Dearka of the Joule Team. Will appear in the program's second half. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
XDDDDDDDD Heh. So Dearka's coming back in the 2nd half, huh? Its been a while, Dearka. I wonder if he'll meet up with Milliaria again? (I also wonder why she dumped him...probably because they were disagreeing over his re-enlistment in ZAFT?)
MSiA Gaia Gundam New Color Ver. (tentative name) - An MS that appears in the program's second half piloted by Archangel member Waltfeld. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
Does this mean the Golden Murasame will be piloted by Mwu/Neo, by chance?
MSiA Strike Rouge Destiny Ver. (tentative name) - Destiny version with Cagalli's emblem on the shoulder and the modified Aile Striker Pack. (end of September, 1,575 yen)
YAY!!! So they really ARE going to let Cagalli use the IWSP Pack!!! So does this mean Cagalli gets to kick ass in mobile suiting fighting?! I mean, of course, she won't be as good as Athrun or Kira, and they won't focus on her as much, but maybe this means she'll actually get to do something unexpectedly cool? Like suddenly show up in the middle of a battle and save Athrun or Andy or someone when they're in a crisis?! *dances crazily at the prospect*
Suddenly things are looking up again, just a bit XDDDDD
Ah yes and in case you didn't know, the 4th ED is apparently by See-Saw, and its called Kimi wa Boku ni Niteiru.
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Maybe this means more Dearka screen time? I like the guy, he was kinda snobby, insensitive and jerkish, now he just seems cool in a way Athrun and Kira never were. Dearka is a dynamic character. But about Andy's ms, are they really going to make another version of Gaia or is that the ms Athrun steals to hightail it out of Zaft and Andy gets a new paintjob for it?
About those old polls, they seem fair. Like Lacus is cuter than Cagalli but Cagalli's hotter because she doesn't have Lacus' Virgin Mary vibe. And Kira being the gloomiest character cracks me up - maybe if they asked that now Athrun would win. What's going on that Lacus is dominating the polls now? Is it because she's an old cast member who hasn't done anything to piss anyone off? Or are the fans suddenly remembering the way she just magically gets everything right and they prefer perfect goddess types over realism?
But if you asked me, and my answers cover both GS and GSD, the hottest woman would be Mrs. Joule, sexiest guy would be Gil, handsomest guy would be Mwu, cutest and most adorable is my baby Stellar, prettiest female would be Lunamaria when she doesn't have the worshipful sheep expression, most intriguing is Rey, best overall character is Cagalli, wangstiest would be Shinn, funniest is Jona, wisest is Lacus since she's the only one with all the answers and the concrete plans - other than Gil but she's going to show him up too.
Too bad, I thought the new eye catch thing was for sure. But did they change the eye catch characters midway in GS, because I only got the cartoon network GS with no eye catch at all, so I don't know.
Have you heard this saying, "Don't go for a girl whose father calls her 'princess.' She probably thinks she is." XD Anyway, I don't think Cagalli's called 'princess' simply because Lord Uzumi wanted her called that, for starters, she hates being called 'princess' and Lord Uzumi wanted her to stop acting like such a brat, I doubt he was the kind of parent who'd encourage her to feel superior. And I doubt the other Orb nobles would have stood for her being called that on Uzumi's whim when they'd want to use the title (or the male equivalent) themselves. I think this is going to be one of the mysteries of the CE universe, unless some nice magazine article will explain it, like they explained the mystery of Malchio's mansion in Orb - it was actually Cagalli's.
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Yeah I wanted her to get a new Gundam too but I'm resigned to the fact she'll have to stick with Strike Rouge =/. Females don't get cool new Gundams to play with like males do, remember? And it seems almost custom-made specifically for her to pilot, and no one else. And Strike Rouge isn't as cool as, say, the Gaia Gundam (which is actually my favorite Gundam, with Murasame coming to a close 2nd), but I really like the lion emblem on her shoulder XD
Maybe this means more Dearka screen time? I like the guy, he was kinda snobby, insensitive and jerkish, now he just seems cool in a way Athrun and Kira never were. Dearka is a dynamic character.
=))))) He is. We've went over this before, but almost all of the blondes are dynamic, actually. In fact, the only people I really liked at the start of SEED were Mwu, Rau, and Cagalli. I kinda liked Yzak and Natarle, too, but I was never crazy over them. And I liked Mwu and Rau even more than Athrun, who I wasn't crazy over at the beginning of SEED (although I've always liked Athrun better than Kira).
Mwu was easygoing, friendly, just plain cool, and just so damn witty, and yet, for all his joking mannerisms, he clearly took his job as a soldier seriously and he was an intelligent person. And he was a real-life psychic! What kind of girl wouldn't want Mwu? <3 Rau was eccentric, but he was different and he had all these sides to him. He was quiet and even rather nice one minute and the next he was a raving nut =). Kind of like Stellar <3. And Cagalli may have been naive, headstrong, tempermental, loud-mouthed, and at times cocky, but she was just so amusing and interesting, and I enjoyed her interaction with other characters. And she was obviously a sincere and empathetic person. I really loved it whenever she hugged - no, mowed over - Kira. The look on Kira's face was priceless XDDD
For me, Mwu and Cagalli were refreshing changes of characters for me because they didn't angst. Now, I like angst, but it gets to be overbearing. Cagalli had her problems, had strong emotions, and didn't make the best decisions, but she didn't angst and whine over them like Kira did (I probably would've liked Kira a whole lot better if he wasn't such a whiny, unstable emotional mess). And Mwu was a funny and lighthearted guy, and I liked him for that.
about Andy's ms, are they really going to make another version of Gaia or is that the ms Athrun steals to hightail it out of Zaft and Andy gets a new paintjob for it?
Not sure. But the scenario you brought up sounds very plausible.
What's going on that Lacus is dominating the polls now? Is it because she's an old cast member who hasn't done anything to piss anyone off?
Yep, Lacus is probably topping the polls right now in magazines like Animedia and Animage because her character hasn't been ripped apart like Athrun's or Cagalli's. The same goes for Kira. In a recent issue of Animedia, I've seen Kira's and Stellar's rankings go up and Athrun's and Cagalli's rankings go down (Kira and Stellar placed maybe 4th and 5th place, respectively, and Athrun and Cagalli tied at 8th).
But as for the Newtype polls, I think mostly fanboys vote in that polls, so Lacus was always going to place first in those polls. (And Lunamaria's going to come a close 2nd.)
However, I've seen a poll in one magazine where Lacus placed 15th, as opposed to Stellar and Cagalli, who placed maybe 8th and 9th. And I've heard, that while the fanboys' favorites are Lacus and Lunamaria, the fangirls (the ones who draw doujinshi, fanart, write fan novels, and are really into the fandom) favor Stellar and Cagalli.
cutest and most adorable is my baby Stellar
<3333 She's *definitely* the cutest. She's like this adorable lost little kitty. And don't you just love her image song, Shinkai no Kodoku?
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But did they change the eye catch characters midway in GS, because I only got the cartoon network GS with no eye catch at all, so I don't know.
They did change the eyecatch midway into GS. First it was an Athrun and Lacus eyecatch where Athrun was blowing bubbles and Lacus was spinning around and putting her arms up to the sky. The second eyecatch was the same, except Kira replaced Athrun.
Hey you watched the dub on Cartoon Network? I'm curious: how was it?
Good points about the princess thing. Its a mystery, among other things: like how in the heck did Andy/Kira/Mwu survive when their Gundams got decimated. For Kira, I think they explained it in the SEED manga (Kira ejected literally the last second and landed on the beach, where Malchio and Lacus found him). But Andy and Mwu remain mysteries. And what I really want to know is: How the hell could Shinn not recognize Lacus when he met her and Kira? I know he lived on ORB for half his life, but wouldn't he have known about her?
ah yes and I'd like to ask you two questions, if you don't mind answering them, slacker (you answer this too, djablesse! *poke* please? XD):
1. In a battle, who would win: Lunamaria in Zaku Warrior, or Cagalli in Strike Rouge, with the IWSP Pack?
2. Do you think the writers focused too much on AsuCaga in SEED?
For me, a battle between Lunamaria and Cagalli would be very close, and I'm not really sure who would win. Lunamaria's a Coordinator, and she's an elite red, but then, for a rookie and a Natural, Cagalli did rather well when she shot down 4 (?) mobile suits in the battle in Ep 49. The only problem with Lunamaria's and Cagalli's piloting skills is that they both seem to get a little reckless or distracted. I don't know a lot about either Zaku Warrior or Strike Rouge. Do you know which one has the better set of weaponry?
As for whether or not the writers focused too much on AsuCaga, I don't think so but feel free to argue a case against this.
And not that this matters, but for me:
the hottest female would be Lunamaria (as much as I don't want to admit it),
the most handsome out of the males (not just the teenage males XD) would be Mwu,
the sexiest male would be Rey,
the prettiest female (when I'm not being biased XD) would be Lacus,
the best overall character would be Cagalli,
the most heroic character would be Cagalli,
the cutest female would be Stellar,
the cutest male would be Shinn (when he's not being a bastard),
the angstiest character would be Athrun,
the coolest character would be Athrun (when he's not being *too* angsty or being a prick),
the wisest character would be Lacus,
the funniest character would be Jona,
the most intriguing character would be Rau,
and the strongest character would be Kira
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Hey you watched the dub on Cartoon Network? I'm curious: how was it?
Since it was the only thing I had, it wasn't too bad. Cagalli sounded girlier, but not as teensy girly like Lacus and Fllay, who sounded like a chipmunk. But I like the Japanese voices better, maybe because I find dubs in general to be weird. My sister was so surprised to hear Naomi Shindou though, she didn't realize Cagalli's voice was that low, but I like it. Cagalli reminds me of an enthusiastic, energetic puppy and Naomi Shindou brought that out. But I liked her english voice too.
How the hell could Shinn not recognize Lacus when he met her and Kira?
I can buy that one. When Kira brought first brought Lacus to the AA in GS, nobody knew who she was. I think she's famous in the PLANTS and in the Zaft bases who have regular contact with the PLANTS but not with the rest of earth. Shinn lived in Orb, and when he went to the PLANTS, Lacus had 'retired' to live with Kira and his mother. They missed each other.
1. In a battle, who would win: Lunamaria in Zaku Warrior, or Cagalli in Strike Rouge, with the IWSP Pack?
Aww, shucks. I hate to see it, but right now I'd give the edge to Lunamaria, who even though she's the suckiest on the Minerva, she can shoot down nameless grunts. Cagalli had to be rescued at the end of GS even in seed mode, even though I understand it was because that was how to show Yzak being on their side - and of course he had to rescue the girl. *pukes* But the thing is, Lunamaria had more training than Cagalli. If they gave Cagalli the same amount of training, used her seed the way Athrun, Kira and Shinn have tapped it, and add the plot factor of her being Kira's twin and all, she'd win. Besides, I'd like to see a non-drugged natural win over a coordinator for once. And she actually dodged Shinn when, correct me if I'm wrong since I can't remember this exactly, he was in seed mode and she wasn't and she was upset. How many could dodge Shinn in seed mode while they're crying?
I don't know what weapons their ms have. Those things confuse me. I only recently confessed this to djablesse, but I might as well tell you too: I can't even tell the Strike, Freedom and Impulse apart. =)
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No, you're correct =). And contrary to what most fans think, Cagalli really isn't a bad pilot at all -she can get easily distracted, but she has skills. Like you said, its just that she's just not trained to be in combat everyday like Lunamaria and people tend to overlook the fact she can dodge a SEED Mode Shinn and are quick to condemn her as a sucky pilot because 1) they're biased and hate her guts and 2)all they see is a crying, whiny dike.
That said, I wonder how people thought of Kira when he was being a whiny crybaby back in SEED? I wasn't around when SEED actually was airing, so I don't know what their reactions were then. Now, I don't hate Kira, but I just love poking fun at how he was in SEED XD
I don't know what weapons their ms have. Those things confuse me. I only recently confessed this to djablesse, but I might as well tell you too: I can't even tell the Strike, Freedom and Impulse apart. =)
Haha, me too *is ashamed* XDDD Strike, Freedom, and Impulse all have a similar color theme. I can only tell the difference when Impulse does that Legos-like transformation thing =PP
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Yes and no. It's weird, but let me try to explain. It's no in that their problems were actually pretty realistic and should have been addressed. Even if there was no war, they'd still have had to deal with the fact that Cagalli is the princess of Orb. Even if Athrun's father was chairman of Zaft, he's still a commoner. It's different. Kind of like how Chelsea Clinton can marry anyone she likes yet Prince William's bride is going to have to go through stringent scrutiny. And the natural-coordinator problem was very important also, and was one of the things that did them in. But I think if Cagalli married Athrun, she'd end up having the support of the coordinators who want to reconcile with the naturals and she'd finally be more honest as the Orb representative (in a way, she was hiding something from them). This way Orb can decide for itself which way it wants to go - Cagalli marrying Jona would have forced the entire country down the pro-natural path. But I'm digressing again.
Yes in the sense that the other element, the harem, was completely unnecessary - it was a waste of time that made everyone involved in it look stupid and it was pointless because it's not like it went anywhere. Meanwhile the asucaga fans like me had heart attacks every Saturday night wondering whether Athrun would fall for someone else and non-asucaga fans were brought into the fray with the who-should-be-with-the-idiot arguments (which now that I think of it, are kinda pointless since it's not like Athrun even wanted a choice). That's where it became too much.
I was debating as to whether Lunamaria was the hottest, since she's got the short skirt and thigh-high combination and all. But in the end, I decided against it because she just seems too green to be really hot. Mrs. Joule on the other hand didn't need a short skirt to be hot, so she won. And Rey lost the hottest guy position with me because of the blush and the hug. Gil won that because while I'd much rather marry Mwu, I'd have an affair with Gil first. XD Yeah, most heroic would be Cagalli, because while so many can kill people in an ms, not very many would be willing to sacrifice their happiness for their country. I wish more people could understand that. Athrun's suicidal runs, while heroic on the outside, was actually escapism (and they say Cagalli's stupid when she actually understood that one).
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*gasp* Awww you'd have an affair with Gil first?! Why, slacker, why?! How dare you choose the man with the long, icky green hair and the irritatingly mystical air over smooth, suave, handsome, cute, cool, and funny blonde-haired Mwu!!!
As you can tell, I am sooo not a Gil fan XD
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Oh, sorry, didn't read that part properly. Nope, if you think about it, asucaga were apart for 3/4s of GS. It's just that their interactions were more discussion worthy than Kira and Lacus, who had nice, sedate, boring conversations that weren't worth analyzing. To me, anyway.
Gil does not have icky green hair, he has black hair and he might be a little vampirish in skin but I've always had a thing for the quietly smart and manipulative, somewhat shady types, though in the end a sense of humor wins out.
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Amen. So glad he's got the mask off. But yeah, Mwu is cool and funny, even when he's all brainwashed. And he's good with kids! In GS it was Kira and to an extent, Cagalli, in GSD it was Stellar.
He was quiet and even rather nice one minute and the next he was a raving nut
I must be a nut too because I thought Rau made the most sense in the end. If people want to annihilate each other, let them. I'd have just rounded up the people who don't want war and want to live in harmony in ships and sent them back to earth when everyone else was dead.
And I've heard, that while the fanboys' favorites are Lacus and Lunamaria, the fangirls (the ones who draw doujinshi, fanart, write fan novels, and are really into the fandom) favor Stellar and Cagalli.
Why am I so surprised? Lacus and Lunamaria are the masculine dream. Lacus is pretty and quiet and girly, she's strong but not in such a way that men are threatened by her, and she's got this caring mother vibe going. Lacus is the girl guys want to marry. Lunamaria is the girl they want to date - pretty, wears short skirts, and not particularly concerned about anything else except them.
Meanwhile, girls can identify with Cagalli's awkwardness, and they have more sympathy for Stellar who just reminds them of their three year old nieces... oh wait, that's just me. Besides, these two have more meat to their characters, Cagalli more than Stellar, but Stellar was just so cute. RIP psycho baby! *sob*
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I thought he made the most sense too, despite the fact he was a raving nut. And I felt sorry for him when he was killed by Kira at the end of SEED - poor guy. The CE universe needs more intelligent people like you, Rau! But no, we get smartasses like Djbril ;____; Speaking of Djbril, what's with him and his cat? He seems like he's into bestiality or something.
Ah yes I have two more questions to add to the other two questions I asked you in the comment above (if you don't mind answering, cause I know my inquiring and questioning can get overbearing to a point it gets irritating XD):
Whose death do you think was the most heroic/sad?
Personally, Natarle's death made the most impact on me. She got shot like a fricking million times trying to save AA from Azrael, but no one was there to see that. She died without anyone knowing how cool she turned out to be. Although Fllay's death came a close second for me.
And what was the most emotional moment in SEED or SEED Destiny for you?
For me, I don't know why, but the most emotional moment in SEED for me was when Sai and Kira reunited. I don't particularly like Sai or Kira, and I don't really know why, but their meeting in ep 36 touched me, more than any other scene that I can think of right now.
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Some people just love their pets. =) Besides, at least he likes something other than himself.
Whose death do you think was the most heroic/sad?
Saddest = Fllay's. All the more because I wasn't expecting it to be sad, I thought I'd cheer but in the end I felt so sorry for both Kira and Fllay.
Heroic = Mwu's. What he did was completely noble and reckless. The problem with Natarle was that it didn't have to be like that, had she not been so unbending previously.
And what was the most emotional moment in SEED or SEED Destiny for you?
The moment I saw the pre-GSD speculation that had asucaga breaking up, Cagalli dying and Athrun getting a new girlfriend. Not kidding. XD
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