grand canyon
Okay guys, we need to get stuff hammered out for this trip. It is a public entry so that myrrhianna, who has kindly offered to acquire a car for us, can read this too. Please respond to each point so we can get all this figured out.
1. WHO'S GOING. Currently myself, the__seeker, leap_at_sun, and seraphicideals, and I think myrrhianna are going.
2. GAS MONEY. How are we paying for gas? I think it would be good if we split the price. I think it'll cost a tank or two for gas, so somewhere between $50 and $110 total? Currently we have 4 or 5 people. If myrrhiana rents a car for us, she's excluded from paying for gas. So, averaging prices out, that's probably somewhere between $12 and $30 per person for gas.
3. HOW WE'RE GETTING THERE This is probably the most important one. Choose which option you want, share concerns/ideas, etc.
a. We take my car, which fits 4 people comfortable and 5 if we make the 3 in the back just a little bit uncomfortable. If we do this, we leave early Tuesday morning (I could pick you all up _by_ 6am) so we can get to the canyon near 11am before it's too hot out. We can then hike a bit, and look at the touristy spots up top, and I'd like to leave by 4pm so we can get through the mountains before it's dark.
b.i. We take myrrhianna up on her offer to rent a car for us. I think we should still leave as close to 6am as possible so we can get to the canyon before it gets hot, hot being a relative term. We stay the night there somewhere; there are hotels, I haven't looked at any specifically yet, but it's a Tuesday night and school has started most places so we'll be able to get a room or two at one. Here are three hotels:
http://www.hotels.com/property.do?searchMtmPropertySupplierId=&propertyIdsToCompareString=&COMonth=8&PSRC=G21&TSRC=1&numrooms=1&searchType=&maxPrice=125&usertypedcity=Grand+Canyon%2C+Arizona%2C+US&alternateSell=&acDestinationId=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&guestRatingMax=5.0&allPropertyTypesSelected=true&COYear=2008&CODay=13&paging=1&guestRatingMin=2.0&acDestinationType=1&searchID=AC102642-3BCF-5911-BB12-2C128C902770&CIYear=2008&mtnHotelID=264437&destination=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&roomOccupancyString=1%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0&CIDay=12&sortBy=HCOMPICK&s=1&selected=rev&position=0&CIMonth=8
http://www.hotels.com/property.do?searchMtmPropertySupplierId=&propertyIdsToCompareString=&COMonth=8&PSRC=G21&TSRC=1&numrooms=1&maxPrice=125&searchType=&selected=rev&usertypedcity=Grand+Canyon%2C+Arizona%2C+US&acDestinationId=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&vd=&queryId=&allPropertyTypesSelected=true&paging=1&CODay=13&COYear=2008&searchID=AC102642-3BCF-5911-BB12-2C128C902770&acDestinationType=1&CIYear=2008&mtnHotelID=412111&destination=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&roomOccupancyString=1%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0&CIDay=12&s=1&sortBy=HCOMPICK&CIMonth=8
The first is about $80 for a room with 2 double beds, the second is about $90 for the same. Neither sound like great hotels, but they're a place to sleep. Everything else is over $100/night, but if you want we can look into those as well. There's a bunch of hotels near the GC, but until October they're expensive.
b.ii. Same as above, except we camp somewhere. There seems to be two campsites around the south rim, which is where we're going. http://www.grand.canyon.national-park.com/camping.htm scroll down a bit. These are clearly cheaper than the hotels, but do we have the equipment necessary to camp? I have a few sleeping bags and a tarp or two, but nothing with which to cook. There's a grocery store near at least one of them; I guess we could buy ready-made food from there.
4. OTHER STUFF WHICH NEEDS TO BE BOUGHT/ACQUIRED. We need food, water, and backpacks. I don't think we need one backpack per person, but two or three total would be good. I have one; who else still has one? We can make our own trail mix (cheaper) or buy stuff, and we need food to eat besides trail mix too. Then we need water, or empty containers for water which we fill here, because there's no water available on the trails. Water's not that expensive; Trader Joe's has 1-gallon bottles for less than a dollar apiece, I think. Please buy/make your own food, because we don't have time to collectively pool together and decide who gets what and how the cost gets split. BRING SUNSCREEN. BRING A HAT. BRING SUNGLASSES. BRING SHOES TO WEAR IN THE CAR AND SHOES TO HIKE IN; they could even be the same pair of shoes. Bring a camera if you want. Bring your own water-bottle and make it a large-ish one, as in 16+ oz.
If I've forgotten something, please leave it in a comment below.
Holy cow, today is Monday, and tomorrow is the day we leave. Leave comments here, discuss among yourselves, call me: (edit: phone # removed for sake of security). I will be at work 12:30-9pm (dammit), but I have two 10-minute breaks and a 30-minute one. I will be calling all of you I can (except I think I only have leap_at_sun's and seraphicideals's number). Time is running out. quickly. But we can pull this together!
1. WHO'S GOING. Currently myself, the__seeker, leap_at_sun, and seraphicideals, and I think myrrhianna are going.
2. GAS MONEY. How are we paying for gas? I think it would be good if we split the price. I think it'll cost a tank or two for gas, so somewhere between $50 and $110 total? Currently we have 4 or 5 people. If myrrhiana rents a car for us, she's excluded from paying for gas. So, averaging prices out, that's probably somewhere between $12 and $30 per person for gas.
3. HOW WE'RE GETTING THERE This is probably the most important one. Choose which option you want, share concerns/ideas, etc.
a. We take my car, which fits 4 people comfortable and 5 if we make the 3 in the back just a little bit uncomfortable. If we do this, we leave early Tuesday morning (I could pick you all up _by_ 6am) so we can get to the canyon near 11am before it's too hot out. We can then hike a bit, and look at the touristy spots up top, and I'd like to leave by 4pm so we can get through the mountains before it's dark.
b.i. We take myrrhianna up on her offer to rent a car for us. I think we should still leave as close to 6am as possible so we can get to the canyon before it gets hot, hot being a relative term. We stay the night there somewhere; there are hotels, I haven't looked at any specifically yet, but it's a Tuesday night and school has started most places so we'll be able to get a room or two at one. Here are three hotels:
http://www.hotels.com/property.do?searchMtmPropertySupplierId=&propertyIdsToCompareString=&COMonth=8&PSRC=G21&TSRC=1&numrooms=1&searchType=&maxPrice=125&usertypedcity=Grand+Canyon%2C+Arizona%2C+US&alternateSell=&acDestinationId=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&guestRatingMax=5.0&allPropertyTypesSelected=true&COYear=2008&CODay=13&paging=1&guestRatingMin=2.0&acDestinationType=1&searchID=AC102642-3BCF-5911-BB12-2C128C902770&CIYear=2008&mtnHotelID=264437&destination=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&roomOccupancyString=1%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0&CIDay=12&sortBy=HCOMPICK&s=1&selected=rev&position=0&CIMonth=8
http://www.hotels.com/property.do?searchMtmPropertySupplierId=&propertyIdsToCompareString=&COMonth=8&PSRC=G21&TSRC=1&numrooms=1&maxPrice=125&searchType=&selected=rev&usertypedcity=Grand+Canyon%2C+Arizona%2C+US&acDestinationId=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&vd=&queryId=&allPropertyTypesSelected=true&paging=1&CODay=13&COYear=2008&searchID=AC102642-3BCF-5911-BB12-2C128C902770&acDestinationType=1&CIYear=2008&mtnHotelID=412111&destination=A1148333-3652-7F9E-CFC2-DC9313907FFE&roomOccupancyString=1%7C%7C2%7C0%7C0&CIDay=12&s=1&sortBy=HCOMPICK&CIMonth=8
The first is about $80 for a room with 2 double beds, the second is about $90 for the same. Neither sound like great hotels, but they're a place to sleep. Everything else is over $100/night, but if you want we can look into those as well. There's a bunch of hotels near the GC, but until October they're expensive.
b.ii. Same as above, except we camp somewhere. There seems to be two campsites around the south rim, which is where we're going. http://www.grand.canyon.national-park.com/camping.htm scroll down a bit. These are clearly cheaper than the hotels, but do we have the equipment necessary to camp? I have a few sleeping bags and a tarp or two, but nothing with which to cook. There's a grocery store near at least one of them; I guess we could buy ready-made food from there.
4. OTHER STUFF WHICH NEEDS TO BE BOUGHT/ACQUIRED. We need food, water, and backpacks. I don't think we need one backpack per person, but two or three total would be good. I have one; who else still has one? We can make our own trail mix (cheaper) or buy stuff, and we need food to eat besides trail mix too. Then we need water, or empty containers for water which we fill here, because there's no water available on the trails. Water's not that expensive; Trader Joe's has 1-gallon bottles for less than a dollar apiece, I think. Please buy/make your own food, because we don't have time to collectively pool together and decide who gets what and how the cost gets split. BRING SUNSCREEN. BRING A HAT. BRING SUNGLASSES. BRING SHOES TO WEAR IN THE CAR AND SHOES TO HIKE IN; they could even be the same pair of shoes. Bring a camera if you want. Bring your own water-bottle and make it a large-ish one, as in 16+ oz.
If I've forgotten something, please leave it in a comment below.
Holy cow, today is Monday, and tomorrow is the day we leave. Leave comments here, discuss among yourselves, call me: (edit: phone # removed for sake of security). I will be at work 12:30-9pm (dammit), but I have two 10-minute breaks and a 30-minute one. I will be calling all of you I can (except I think I only have leap_at_sun's and seraphicideals's number). Time is running out. quickly. But we can pull this together!