VP debates, the personal ones?

Oct 03, 2008 14:08

The vice-presidential debates are over. What do you think? Did you hear from Sarah Palin anything other than the standard set of “folksy colloquialisms” (as Tom Shales from the Washington Post calls it ) and her traditional mantras such as “Washington outsider”, “maverick” and the need to “combat the Wall Street greed”? And what about Joe Biden, ( Read more... )

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batbuds October 3 2008, 11:39:14 UTC
Personally... I find Palin refreshing if not a bit naive. Biden, I find not eloquent as you say, but old school, tired and typical of professional politicians.

I can say the same things about Obama/McCain... Obama fresh, McCain jaded...

I am actually tired of the professional politicians... I vote for term limits on Congress too. And to make it even better, once you have served your term limit in one position, you are no longer eligible for any other position; in other words no drifting from House to Senate, to President/VP, etc... NO CAREER IN POLITICS... do your duty and go away... it would bring the lobbyist and special interest groups under control too...

But I digress... Your question is slanted... obviously... Please, if you are going to claim to be a non-biased reporter interested in honest and open conversation, verify that you are not stacking the deck before you even deal the first card...

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credendovides October 3 2008, 11:47:30 UTC
While I personally agree with the bias of the question (As in I prefer Obama/Biden over McCain/Palin, not that I agree with it being biased), I have to agree with the question being slanted. I have noticed a lot of the questions posted to this community have been very slanted. I'm honestly not sure what that reflects.

Unrelated, I've noticed that comments by the community seem to have much of the same slant. There have been only a handful of people who support the McCain/Palin ticket compared to those who support Obama/Biden. It's something I've been noticing since the beginning and have been wanting to mention. Again, I'm not really sure what it reflects, aside from the demographic that would join this community is more likely to be Democrat.

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letitshine October 3 2008, 12:40:00 UTC
Until last night I was most assuredly voting for Ron Paul. Biden's statements seem to have brought me into a gray area towards potentially voting Obama/Biden.

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absurdhero October 3 2008, 13:36:59 UTC
Ron Paul actually isn't running for president anymore, since he lost his bid for the Republican nomination and isn't running as an independent. That should make the choice a bit easier.

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credendovides October 3 2008, 18:52:26 UTC
That doesn't stop people from doing a write-in as a protest. It won't be counted since he isn't a registered write-in of course, but that doesn't stop people from writing him in.

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the_paulr October 3 2008, 20:49:55 UTC
There have been only a handful of people who support the McCain/Palin ticket compared to those who support Obama/Biden.

Unfortunately most of the comments I've seen from McCain supporters have been regurgitated, discredited talking points or other statements completely lacking in facts. Which is not to say that you won't find the same from some Obama supporters, I'm just not seeing it as much. But maybe I'm biased.

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credendovides October 3 2008, 21:02:40 UTC
No, I see that too. It makes me wonder about the accusations of the McCain campaign about negative comments coming from "Intellectuals". Is it really such a bad thing to listen to a comment from someone who actually thought about it?

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the_paulr October 3 2008, 21:13:16 UTC
Is it really such a bad thing to listen to a comment from someone who actually thought about it?

Absolutely not, in my opinion. I'd love to see someone tell my why I should vote FOR McCain instead of just attacking Obama. I could respect that even if I don't agree with them.

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letitshine October 3 2008, 12:37:46 UTC
Palin reminds me of the close minded & under-cultured, self-proclaimed "Hicks" of my high school. The slutty ones.

I'm just sayin.

the apple doesnt seem to fall far from the tree either...

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hazelwindows October 3 2008, 16:25:02 UTC
I could not have expressed my sense of Governor Palin any better than this.

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foreignphonemes October 4 2008, 18:40:52 UTC
that's a really interesting idea, about the no career in politics.

I kinda like it.

The only thing is that I would like my President to have experience in politics.

Can we make an exception for presidents?

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batbuds October 4 2008, 20:29:06 UTC
For the sake of arguement, let say the term limit is 8 years. Hey, if they want to be a senator for 4 years then run for president, that is fine.. After one term of president, their time is up and someone else steps up to the plate. Remember this is only at the Fed level. If someone wants to cut their teeth at the State level, so be it, but once they step into the federal political arena, the clock starts ticking.

Some of the problem I see is that our goverment cannot or will not get out of the two party system. Independents, Libertarians, etc. are squashed by big budgets and huge advertising blitzes that destroy any other chance... lobbyist, special interest are willing to dump millions into the federal political system to help support their causes... They may be more reluctant if they know the investment is only for up to 8 years at a time.

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foreignphonemes October 6 2008, 00:20:56 UTC
yeah, the two party system has been my pet peeve for a long time.

We are political buddies
: )

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