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Here is the repeated image of the lover destroyed - a Damon/Elena meta

Jan 07, 2012 17:29

This is yet another spontanous TVD meta. Because I have feelings about the last episode, and I have FEELINGS about what I currently see all around the internet. So, you know, it's either writing a meta, or spontanously growing a set of fangs and eating random people. This meta is a pitchfork in the hand of an angry God ( Read more... )

meta, damon omg damon, fandom: the vampire diaries, elena gilbert is amazing

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goldy_dollar January 7 2012, 16:55:21 UTC

Meta! \o/

Ugh it seems like Elena haters are everywhere lately. :| It makes me want to stan her extra hard, sorry internet.

He is the key violator of free will in this show, and Elena is teaming up with him to send Jeremy away. And she knows it's wrong on the every possible level. Elena is pretty smart and self-reflective. She knows she's done a terrible thing, and you know what's worst? Damon understands. He is such a terrible person himself he can actually understand Elena at her lowest.

Ooh, nice insight. I like the idea that the lower Elena sinks, the closer she gets to Damon lol.

Basically, this kiss makes the Top Ten Damon Drama Queen Moments list.

lol Damon.

It's because this moment on the porch is her most vulnerable moment. She's just done something horrible, and she knows exactly how horrible it is, because she had had the same thing done to her in the past. She knows she is spiralling. And she knows Damon sees it. She is so exposed she can't even get her defences up in time.That's sort of awful in a way, though, ( ... )

upupa_epops January 7 2012, 17:20:35 UTC

Elena haters really are everywhere :(.

Oh, I definitely agree that Damon was totally selfish in this scene! Typical Damon crap, just like s2. I was even going to write about it in the post, but it slipped my mind when I decided I wouldn't focus on Damon. Thanks for bringing it up!

One day you must share your thoughts on Damon erasing his "I love you" in 2x08 which has always seemed like the ultimate selfish moment to me rather than him being all noble as some fans paint it

MY VERY FIRST CLASH WITH DAMON/ELENA FANDOM, LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT IT!

Damon/Elena Fandom: "OMG, this scene was so awesome!!!"
Me: "OMG, this scene was so awesome!"
Damon/Elena Fandom: "OMG, it was SO ROMANTIC, what do you think Elena will do when she finds out? WILL SHE FINALLY SEE SENSE AND LOVE HIM BACK?"
Me: "Uhm. She will kick his ass six ways to Sunday for being such a self-centred dick and messing with her MIND?"
Damon/Elena Fandom: *vomits rainbows*
Me: *IDEK*

So, yeah. I love the scene from Rose to bits, but, for God's sake, in which universe is Damon ( ... )

eowyn_315 January 7 2012, 21:28:19 UTC

I love the scene from Rose to bits, but, for God's sake, in which universe is Damon being selfless?

I think the selflessness is in the sentiment of letting her go - acknowledging that he doesn't deserve Elena and that she's better off with Stefan? But Damon being Damon, he needs the selfish indulgence of TELLING HER ABOUT IT.

(And, let's be fair, it's not actually all that selfless. I mean, what's he saying? "I'll stop harassing you and let you date my brother in peace." YOU'RE A CHAMP, DAMON.)

upupa_epops January 7 2012, 22:16:22 UTC

Agreed! Letting it go was actually fairly decent... but I don't think we should congratulate people on stopping harassing someone XD. I guess many people in fandom are still under the spell of Damon saying that he can't be selfish with Elena. And, at the same time, they blisfully forget that he also said: "What I'm about to do is probably the most selfish thing I ever did in my life".

I guess I don't only agree with you, but also with your Katherine icon XD.

eowyn_315 January 7 2012, 22:44:13 UTC

Heh, I think it's rom-com syndrome. You know in rom-com movies, it's always supposed to be ~romantic when the guy totally stalks the girl and harasses her until she agrees to date him? That's what people expect of fictional relationships, so Damon apparently gets a gold star for being decent for once?

upupa_epops January 7 2012, 22:51:37 UTC

Thanks, I've just learned a new word ;). But you're right, stalkers in romantic comedies = HE LOVES HER SO MUCH! Major gross factor.

eowyn_315 January 7 2012, 21:11:48 UTC

But he doesn't seem to stop and think that maybe it's not right to take advantage of Elena when she's at her most vulnerable and unable to resist him.

I have two feelings about this. No, wait, three.

1. Yes, Damon absolutely is awful and selfish. I would never deny Damon is those things. :)

2. I feel like this is kind of on par with them, though? Like, Damon is ALWAYS prioritizing Stefan over Elena. He even did it earlier in this episode by agreeing to help Stefan and not tell Elena. So of course he would think of Stefan first when it comes to the smoochies.

Granted, he should be capable of thinking of Stefan AND Elena, they're not mutually exclusive in this instance, but... it's Damon. He's awful. :)

3. I also think that, on some level, even knowing she was vulnerable, he expected her to stop him because she always does. I think he assumes that even at her lowest, she's still stronger than him (which is more about his view of himself than his view of her).

upupa_epops January 7 2012, 22:21:15 UTC

I seem to have formed a habit of agreeing with you.

I also think that, on some level, even knowing she was vulnerable, he expected her to stop him because she always does.

INTERESTING! Even though he knows her so well, he couldn't have guessed she would be vulnerable enough to actually not react. Doesn't make him any less awful, but adds some extra information about how much Elena is disturbed by the whole Jeremy thing.

eowyn_315 January 7 2012, 23:18:31 UTC

I seem to have formed a habit of agreeing with you.

( ... )

upupa_epops January 8 2012, 01:12:56 UTC

I LOVE YOUR EXPLANATION! See, a habit of agreeing with you! It makes perfect sense, a mixture of self-centring (is that even a word?) and self-loathing. Yep, that's my ship.

ever_neutral January 8 2012, 12:02:10 UTC

lol, I love it when you people use my theories.

I honestly think Damon and Elena are incapable of being objective about each other. Well, no, they can be objective, but the objectivity is irrelevant. A lot of people point out the lack of respect in their relationship? But Damon and Elena's friendship/relationship is not driven by ~respect~. Because Elena OBJECTIVELY thinks Damon is a terrible person, but it doesn't matter, she can be friends with him anyway.

(This is like the opposite of Elena/Stefan, where the strength/functionality of their relationship entirely depended on their good opinion of one another. It's a far healthier and normative type of relationship, I suppose, but it's not the way D/E roll, lmao.)

The strength of D/E is that rare trust Marta basically describes, where Damon understands Elena at her worst. But it's not really just that--it's about Damon being able to be in that dark place WITH her. Damon is moved by Elena's vulnerability, it makes him equally as vulnerable, which is what prompts him to crazy ( ... )

upupa_epops January 8 2012, 23:13:38 UTC

I wouldn't even know how to put respect between those two. It's like... idek, they're too close? They treat each other too intuitively? Damn, I can't explain it properly.

Damon is moved by Elena's vulnerability, it makes him equally as vulnerable, which is what prompts him to crazy emotional shit like kiss her spontaneously and selfishly.

THIS.

Damon/Elena is becoming such a tangle I can more or less understand them intuitively, but they're getting harder and harder to describe...

eowyn_315 January 9 2012, 16:50:08 UTC

I actually don't think he'd have kissed Elena if he didn't already suspect she would reciprocate (because she was giving him doe eyes during their conversation, I suppose).

Heh, that's not really new though. She's been giving him doe eyes since day 1, and it's pretty obvious Damon knows she's attracted to him. :) I think it's more a matter of not knowing which would win out - her morals or lust?

ever_neutral January 10 2012, 02:45:18 UTC

She's been giving him doe eyes since day 1

lol, I DISAGREE, actually. (not tryin' to start somethin', I swear.)

But in any case, IA about the kiss. Damon had to have been certain Elena would reciprocate in a purely physical sense; however, he probably expected her to object from a "moral" standpoint.

goldy_dollar January 8 2012, 15:42:23 UTC

Like, Damon is ALWAYS prioritizing Stefan over Elena. He even did it earlier in this episode by agreeing to help Stefan and not tell Elena.

TRUE. I guess what I'm getting at is that Damon is very, very good at protecting Elena: The Physical Person ("I will always choose you" etc.) and less good at protecting Elena's emotional needs and wants. When the season first started, someone on my flist pointed out that Stefan always filled the roll of nurturer and suddenly Damon found himself in BOTH roles in S3... and is not very good at it. I like that explanation.

I also think that, on some level, even knowing she was vulnerable, he expected her to stop him because she always does.

Hmm, I like this, but I'm not really sure I see it? He just seemed so smug after their kiss! lol.

upupa_epops January 8 2012, 22:58:55 UTC

I guess what I'm getting at is that Damon is very, very good at protecting Elena: The Physical Person ("I will always choose you" etc.) and less good at protecting Elena's emotional needs and wants.

I have a feeling that it isn't so simple, but I can't tell if this impression comes from the actual show, or it was put in my brain by a fic... I NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS.

He just seemed so smug after their kiss!

He is Damon. I bet he even looks smug when brushing his teeth ;).

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