It's All About Brothers
This is a spontanous Salvatore meta. It combines the thoughts I had while re-watching season one, all sorts of random TVD observations and my flailing all over 3x08. Since I just HAVE TO do this, and I have very little time (unexpected family problems that will consume most of my free time at least till Tuesday), unfortunately I can't fiddle with
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And this is why it will be Damon who saves Stefan: because he just wants to save Stefan, and he brings no additional meaning into it. He doesn't want to save any ideas (like: romantic love, abstract goodness etc); he wants to save the only thing that holds his identity together.
THIS. It’s interesting, though, and definitely worth noting, that Damon thinks that Stefan being happy does involve a degree of “goodness.” Or self-control, anyway. Damon doesn’t need to redeem his brother, maybe, but he understands that unless Stefan learns self-control and balance and self-acceptance, Damon isn’t going to have the brother he needs. For whatever reason, Damon’s identity doesn’t simply depend on Stefan-continued existence, but also on Stefan’s well-being. Otherwise, what would be the point of “saving” him? All he’d have to do is make sure his brother doesn’t die.
He wants to make Stefan's life easier, and he is not even sorry if your tone implies that he should care about collateral damage.HA. Love it ( ... )
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Good point about Damon needing Stefan not just alive, but also in good shape. He can't just let him rot in the cell, can he?
It’s weird, but the collateral damage doesn’t bother me all that much. I mean, it does, but these are vampires---collateral damage is kind of a thing with vampires. I’ve made my peace with the fact that these are basically bad people. I’m okay with it. I like them anyway. And I wonder---if it bothers people so much, why do they watch a show about mythical creatures that need to murder to survive?It does bother me that they vampires just "accidentally" keep killing mostly pretty, young girls, but other than that? TVD is not a show about heroes, the characters are just people who happened to get involved into something bigger than themselves, and now they try to cope. They are so selfish, they protect their own, and they never see the bigger picture. This is what I love about this show. Because, honestly? If my (hypothetical) brother ( ... )
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Yay! I was just creeping through some flists and I saw this posy and was all like OMG MUST COMMENT.
It does bother me that they vampires just "accidentally" keep killing mostly pretty, young girls.
Yeah, that it is pretty bothersome. But I guess vampires prefer to feed on people they find attractive? Though, you know, me, I’d probably prefer to feed on the people I DISLIKE, but oh well.
TVD is not a show about heroes, the characters are just people who happened to get involved into something bigger than themselves, and now they try to cope. YES. AGREED. Of course Damon is horrible. Of course all vampires are horrible on some level. How could they not be? They’re vampires. They need to eat people, and it does no good to be nice to the cow before you eat the burger, I guess ( ... )
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I'm glad you did :).
And it of course sucks, and they probably had no idea just how much vampirism would suck before they signed up for it, but what can they do now?
I think Damon had quite a fair idea, and he wanted to do it anyway ;). Well, he is not the smartest person in the world.
They’d probably even share Elena, really. I mean, after mass murder, it doesn’t even rank. Polyamorous arrangement? Make it happen, show.
I don't think a polyamorous arrangement here should be considered in terms of good and evil. I guess it's more of what they would feel comfortable with. There are so many issues here (first of all, Elena and Stefan from the very beginning were shaping their relationship as an epic romance, and in order to get into a threesome, they'd have to re-evaluate their entire relationship), and I'd love to see those issues play out on screen. Right now we have some very interesting dynamics, and I'm enjoying it very much :D.
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Oh, I didn’t mean to imply that polyamory is bad. Sure, it makes some people feel squicky, but I’m not one of them. It’s not for me, I guess, but I can see how it would work for some people? Like these three characters in particular. And I can see them going for it, too---granted, after a lot of shouting and crying and gnashing of teeth, but I do think they could warm to the idea. It just seems the only logical thing to do?
But I keep getting the feeling that the showrunners might not go for it. I guess it just doesn’t really GO with most people’s idea of “epic romance.” I can see them getting real squicked by the whole thing. But again, showrunners: your characters are murderers and you’re grossed out by an unorthodox relationship arrangement?
Elena and Stefan from the very beginning were shaping their relationship as an epic romance, and in order to get into a threesome, they'd ( ... )
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I think Damon had quite a fair idea, and he wanted to do it anyway ;) I would dispute this. Damon had an extremely (and here's that word again) romanticised view of vampirism (as he pretty much did everything for a long time!). He had an amazing, independent, sexy, fiesty vampire lover that he was going to be with for eternity.
Becoming a vampire wasn't about bloodlust and hunger and fear and evil to him. It was eternal love.
And then it happened.
And suddenly it was betrayal and hurt and loneliness and rage and nothing at all like he imagined it would be.
And now I suddenly have this urge to write human!damon - vamp!damon fic. Because it's not like I don't already have a LIST of fics that I should be writing (and you know, a thesis and such...).
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You have a point, I haven't taken Damon's romantic delusions into consideration here. He knew a lot about being a vampire, but he wasn't able to interpret it correctly. Thanks for showing me Yet Another Level On Which There Is Something Wrong With Damon!
The fic should be written. Most definitely. (What is thesis? What are finals? What is school?)
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Also, this entire meta is made of so much win I'm not sure what to do with my hands *flaps uselessly*.
As much as Katherine is my favourite character (and yikes, the meta there is also PAGES LONG!), my absolute favourite relationship dynamic is between these two. And they're totally the heart of this show to me (no matter what Elena might think about her role in All The Everything!).
Also, I read some of your other metas too. You write the best metas!
I really wanted to comment on the Lexi one because you made SO MANY good points. But every time I started typing, my fingers were all "I DO NOT LIKE LEXI..." and I couldn't make them be any more eloquent than that! Which is useless and so I just skipped on to THE BROTHERS. And it was GLORIOUS!
Yet Another Level On Which There Is Something Wrong With Damon! It's even better than Mario Kart, or, you know, whatever it is that the cool kids are playing these days...!
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Just out of pure curiosity - why don't you like Lexi? I have very mixed feelings myself, but there are not many people who dislike her strongly, so I'm very interested what you'd say!
I'm glad you liked my metas :).
It's even better than Mario Kart, or, you know, whatever it is that the cool kids are playing these days...!
I have no idea what are they playing, but it can't possibly be better than Things That Are Wrong With Damon!
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Re. Lexi. I guess I really just don't understand her. Like, why the hell did she decide to be Stefan's saviour and completely throw Damon to the curb? I mean, we never really got any reason for why she chose one over the other. Especially right back at the start. Damon was just as new to the business of being a vampire as Stefan was, AND he had the added drama of living with a dude that was off the rails. And she was basically all, I'll take it from here. You can make your own way.Then I hated that she tried to attack Liz Forbes. I know 99% of fandom LOATHE that Damon killed her, but as the Damon/Liz friendship is one of my favourites, and the alternative to Damon killing her was Lexi killing Liz, I am all for what he did. There were MANY motives for Damon's actions that night. He got the heat off him and his brother, he saved Caroline's mother (a ( ... )
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